Crafting is dead

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Originally Posted by Lyrinn

Furthermore, combat classes who helped stabilize supplies will no longer be able to do so. DoW/M used excess tomes to purchase and sell mats, which provided them with a source of income and crafters with a steady supply. Win-win for everyone. Now DoW/M have to find somewhere else to dump seals and crafters have to work with scarce supplies. Brilliant.

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This is a point that I haven't seen touched on anywhere else and yet it's one of the biggest problems. Even supplying end-game crafting/gathering right now takes high-level crafting/gathering, all the gil's just going to concentrate even further with people who already had all the gil.

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Originally Posted by Ossom

I think spending 5 Weeks to get a tool and a body piece that is already not the BiS is gonna hurt you in the long run, because what happens in 6 Months when you don't have the craft and control to do the 3 star? You can't meld anything to raise the caps so you are gonna need to start over from square one.

In the 3.0 Chimerical set you can already meet the crafting caps to craft the new 2 Star gear so there is no reason to spend red scrips on getting a Non Bis Tool and a Non Bis Body piece.

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I showed you an alternative to the insane amounts of materia that you will blow up in the process otherwise.
Also, to make the ilvl170 mainhand and body 'significantly' better than the 180 ones, you have to put in a lot of materia (not just IV, also V), again many will blow up. Do this 16 times. Not worth it in my opinion.

The body can "reasonably" be melded to be equal to or better than the 180.
The MH however, have fun blowing up your V's.

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Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang

Wonder how are japanese DoH/DoL reacting to this.

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They hate it just like anyone with a brain (which thankfully is the vast majority)

Honestly, the biggest issue I'm having is that the DoW/DoM gear is locked behind red scrips and the fact that you need both a Miner and Botanist at Lv60 to get red scrip items, along with that you have to screw your gatherer over if you wanna craft on your crafter.

Seems counterintuitive.

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

Well THAT bytes ...

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It mega bytes! :P If it doesn't Kil o byte off crafting ^^

Look at it this way, it's a system that is probably giving Gil sellers wet dreams :S

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Originally Posted by DarthBuzzer

They hate it just like anyone with a brain (which thankfully is the vast majority)

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Well, that should mean more chance of it being revisited and revised.

Has anyone checked the change with guildleves mentioned in the patch notes?

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Guildleves
[3.0] New crafting materials have been added as rewards for tradecraft temple leves.

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I don't have game access, so I can't check myself. This isn't an alternative way of getting the 2 star mats, right?

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Originally Posted by Seyb

Has anyone checked the change with guildleves mentioned in the patch notes?


I don't have game access, so I can't check myself. This isn't an alternative way of getting the 2 star mats, right?

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No, this is mats used for lvl 58+ recipes. Like hallowed lumbers, chimera manes, adamantite ore, etc.

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Originally Posted by Rath

No, this is mats used for lvl 58+ recipes. Like hallowed lumbers, chimera manes, adamantite ore, etc.

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Ah, good to know, thanks. Hoped they made it the same as with the lucis items.

Yeah, they ruined it big time. The grind is so ridiculously unapproachable and pointless it boggles my mind. What were they thinking? I've heard people are unsubbing who were big into crafting with their friends. I still enjoy the story and hardcore raiding so I'll be sticking around, hoping for a rework but I will NOT be touching the crafting with a 10 foot pole.