Immersion, The Facts & Fiction

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

Yup, to use the literal sense of the word 'help' would mean they would help you steal the car.

To use the moral sense of the word 'help', they would do what they could to stop you from attempting it.

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Moral sense of the word?

Sorry, I am not understanding.

When you help someone, the outcome of the help can be moral or immoral, productive or non-productive.

But the word "help" is not moral.

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Originally Posted by Yoohre_WildRiver

non of the arguments are correct since immersion is relative to the persons grasp of reality

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Hey Yoohre!!!

Actually some are making that very argument.

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Originally Posted by RemVye

I think this whole post is pointless and I hate chibi for even starting it. She probably has an entire novel of text and replies in this thread. And the RANDOM capitalizing of WORDS is REALLY annoying. I GET that YOU are TRYING to *CONVEY* a POINT but it really is not necessary to do THIS.... ewe sea wut eye dud thur?

Chibi go play the game and stop posting so much, flooding the forums with 100's of posts a day. I disagree with your whole argument but unlike you I'm done writing here because I can't sit here and reply every 5 seconds. You're wrong and many people agree with me, and some people agree with you but the point is.... it does not f8cking matter, just play the damn game.


Over 1,200 views and only 12 likes... you can't be that correct if no one agrees.

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What happened to this morning when you said "I'm done posting here"... well I guess you're a liar.

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U mad bro?

(First time using that net speak btw, consider yourself honoured.)

As I said later in the post, what I say and what I do are two different things.

Hate me if you like, I don't care.

I like to talk and communicate with people, I'm sociable that way, that's why I post a lot, because I like to talk and express opinions, ideas and thoughts. I'm open-minded so I like to open myself up to new possibilities and new ways of thinking, the best way to experience this is to talk to people, as everyone has a different opinion.

For me the forums are just another part of the game. They were made for the game, and I enjoy the forums as much as I enjoy the game.

I capitalise words only one a basis when someone is argueing something ridiculous as a means to say "This is what I said and you clearly didn't read it if you're saying what you are saying."

I do play the game, I thoroughly enjoy it. Tomorrow after the second part of my job interview I'm going to sit down with a bottle of wine and spend many many happy hours playing it.

If no one agreed it wouldn't have 12 likes or be listed as a 'hot topic'

Problem?

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Originally Posted by Crica

Moral sense of the word?

Sorry, I am not understanding.

When you help someone, the outcome of the help can be moral or immoral, productive or non-productive.

But the word "help" is not moral.

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And moral is one of the words I utilise incorrectly. I think I was trying to say something like "the person would feel a moral compulsion to draw the person away from their immoral act". I think that's the right way to say it anyways, not really surely.

However I'm happy to admit that I use a word wrong and then learn how to better understand it so that I can use it properly.

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

Ah. So then I'd have to find an example of something completely devoid of any possible link to reality.

Hmm...

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Hint: you can't.

The moment you state you do - how would you do it?

By using reality to do so...

^_^;

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

And moral is one of the words I utilise incorrectly. I think I was trying to say something like "the person would feel a moral compulsion to draw the person away from their immoral act". I think that's the right way to say it anyways, not really surely.

However I'm happy to admit that I use a word wrong and then learn how to better understand it so that I can use it properly.

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The quote would make more sense if it said "you don't need a reason to save someone" I suppose?

Is that what you mean by "moral meaning"?

Help means "save"?

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Originally Posted by Crica

Hint: you can't.

The moment you state you do - how would you do it?

By using reality to do so...

^_^;

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Darn that really is breaking it into it's basic elements. I was about to say The Force from Star Wars too, I can't really think of an example of how any part of that can be related to reality in any way at all.

The force = Magnetism

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Originally Posted by Crica

The quote would make more sense if it said "you don't need a reason to save someone" I suppose?

Is that what you mean by "moral meaning"?

Help means "save"?

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You have a point, it'd be kinda odd to use 'save' as a way to say 'help'.

Hmm...

When someone is drowning they cry for help in hopes that someone will save them.

So to offer 'moral help' would be to save someone who required help.

Though help can be used in two different ways.

Someone can require help - They want to receive something
Someone can offer help - They want to give something

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Originally Posted by Rinoa

The force = Magnetism

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Then how do they choke people with it and shoot lightning from their fingers? :p