Post Your Healing Horror Stories.

Today in Hullbreaker Isle, tank started looking at me, checking my gear (iLvl109), and I had bad premonition. Yes, crazy speed run by whole way.

Even both dps received damage during pull. But with luck I kept all alive. And after kill all tentacles, gave commendation for bard. I never give commendation for a tank doing speed run.

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Originally Posted by thereddee

Its an horror story, but not for the same reason.


I ran ST at least 25 time in the past 2 weeks so I know the fight. It just upset me being pushed around because I'm trying to be a better player instead of waiting around.

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I think the good thing with ST is you get that first big mob pull to get a look at your party to decide how you will play. See what the other healer does if they are over healing and if party members take pointless damage. Sometimes for me the other healer can manage on their own so we end up just sort of swapping roles between damaging and healing solo it kind of works but takes your healing partner to have a brain. Seen everything from healers over healing when it's not needed to a hell party that takes damage from every AoE that you struggle to keep up so no time to damage and then you still get yelled at because half the party is dead.

So I finally got around to unlocking my "High Level Roulette", after playing the game for 8 months. :confused: Before I started working on my books I had 3 dungeons in the list that I hadn't run. "Pharos Sirius", "Copperbell Mines (Hard)" and "Haukke Manor (Hard)". I ended up doing both Copperbell and Haukke for my books, and decided to go ahead and do Pharos so that I could finally do the Roulette.

After running the Expert Roulette’s for so long, I was not used to the low level entry point. The run starts and the Warrior announces that he is new. I also state that I’m new. We have a BLM and a NIN in the run with us and myself the Scholar. I didn’t look at the gear at first and proceeded to do the run. My typical routine is to flip over to Cleric Stance and apply some dots and then spread them with Bane. By then it’s usually time for me to turn off Cleric Stance, and apply some heals as the tank has probably taken some hits by then. So I start to do that, and notice that that warrior is already down to 25% of his health. No problem, I heal him back up. The run goes “slowly” with the Warrior being very “squishy”. It was something I didn’t notice at first. It seemed like every time I watched his health he seemed to hold his own, but as soon as I took my eyes off of him, He would fall quickly.

I eventually examined him, and noticed that most of his gear is in the 50-60 ilvl range. I look at the one BLM and his gear is 110-120 and myself with 110. No wonder this run feels strange. I think the BLM was more on the ball then I was and was actually slowing down his damage output, so that the WAR could keep hate. We get to the first boss “Symond the Unsinkable”. The first try I loose the WAR. I’ll admit I did attempt to do some DPS so that might have been it. The throw a raise on the WAR and start healing the NIN who has the hate. The WAR runs over and is apparently unable to get back the hate from the NIN. The NIN goes down and then the WAR get’s back the hate. I don’t have switfcast anymore since I used it on the WAR. We get the boss down to about 25% and end up wiping because the adds became to much. We try again, and this time the NIN mentions to the WAR that he needs to move the boss out of some of the AOEs on the floor. The WAR doesn’t say anything but does make an effort to move the boss. This time we are able to defeat him. I’ve given up on doing any DPS. I’m just watching the WAR as he stays healthy and then in a blink he is down to 25%.

We get to the 2nd boss “Zu” and the NIN explains that we should only kill one egg at a time when the hatch. This fight is sort of a blur to me, I do know that the first time we wiped on it. The NIN states, “I said only kill one egg at a time”, and then is gone. Maybe it was a DC or maybe he was just frustrated. The rest of us go to the 2nd boss and another adventurer joins us. I think he was a NIN. He is also new to the dungeon and get’s turned around on level 2 (he didn’t know where the stairs were, and was running back to the entrance). I bring up the map and help him through his confusion and get him to us. Once again we attack Zu and this time only kill one egg at a time when they spawn.

We get to the door keeper “Tyrant” and get by him. So now we are at “Siren”. Even though I’ve only watched a video for the dungeon, I mention, when the boss leaves head to the center. She will either do a line AOE or and area one. If she does the line get out of the center otherwise stay there. We proceed to do the fight and the I think only the BLM was picking up the adds. Also every time Siren left the arena, the NIN would run in random patterns. We ended up wiping once again. We are 3 for 3 at this point, we’ve wiped on every boss we fight. So we group back up. We reiterate the fight, and mention that the adds should be burnt. We go at it again. I’m still only healing. The fight is hectic and at one point both the WAR and the NIN take damage. I’m focusing on the WAR trying to keep him alive, and luckily the NIN recognized this, and actually stopped attacking and moved to a safe spot. He waited for me to stabilize the WAR and then for me to get his life back up, and then resumed attacking. I think he was sitting at only 150 hit points or so. I also realized that I could kite the crawling adds so that would give the others more time to burn them down. We get the boss close 5% and I reach the point of "this boss has to die". Everyone is good, and I have 3 stacks of Atherflow with it off cooldown. So I just start energy draining the boss. That along with the rest of the damage, is enough.


All in all the only thing that really went against us was the fact the WAR was more or less at the level for the dungeon and didn’t out gear it like the rest of us did. It was a interesting run to say the least. But hey I’ve now unlocked the high level roulette so it works.

Like to preface this by saying, I don't believe all tanks, or even the majority are similar to the one in my story.

That said, I am noticing a growing trend of Paladin tanks who are now suddenly above using their defensive cooldowns.

Case in point, I'm running Sastasha HM. Tank was probably around the i111 range as he was full Soldiery gear plus one or two of the Ironworks pieces. Still, gear doesn't make up for bad practices. He decides because I am also i111 that apparently we are going to speedrun Sastasha.

Well, I'm not crazy about speedrunning, but I've gotten used to it. Well, he decides to start chain pulling amounts I've never seen done in Sastasha HM yet, we're talking pulls with mobs in excess of +10 enemies. While, that would have been taxing enough on me given I had no experience speedrunning the place, the PLD decides that he isn't going to use a single defensive cooldown, and also goes Sword Oath to, in his words "speed up the pulls".

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So, not only does it put greater strain on healing him because he doesn't have his permanent 20% defense boost, he won't cycle cooldowns and also can't hold hate away from the DPS.

After wiping on a few mob pulls he stops and starts blaming me in chat for letting him die. I try to explain to him it would help if he would go into Shield Oath and rotate his cooldowns. Then I get a message that was pretty much like: I shouldn't have to use my cooldowns unless I'm paired with shitty healers, like you. I should be able to DPS, but you can't seem to do your job at all.

Now, I try to be relax about these things as I can. I mean.. it's a game. But I do get a bit offended when I get called a bad healer because it's something I've prided myself in for years. So, I lashed back at him. He and I fight in party chat for a couple minutes, he drops and then we pick up a new tank and clear the instance with no trouble... just ugh.

Moral of the story, if you tank actually... you know... tank.

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Originally Posted by Tsurayu

So, not only does it put greater strain on healing him because he doesn't have his permanent 20% defense boost, he won't cycle cooldowns and also can't hold hate away from the DPS.

After wiping on a few mob pulls he stops and starts blaming me in chat for letting him die. I try to explain to him it would help if he would go into Shield Oath and rotate his cooldowns. Then I get a message that was pretty much like: I shouldn't have to use my cooldowns unless I'm paired with shitty healers, like you. I should be able to DPS, but you can't seem to do your job at all.

Moral of the story, if you tank actually... you know... tank.

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...wow. *Slaps the tank with an iron glove*
If he wanted to DPS, he should, you know, be a DPS. He pretty much did everything against the tank book.... (Not holding hate, not using Shield oath, not pulling only to ability, not using cool downs)...

I'm fine with clumping a few mobs together if you have a BLM/BRD or two, but I was doing Qarn HM earlier with my SCH and the Tank ran off as soon as we had all loaded in and proceeded to round up literally every mob up to the first boss room.
Ofcourse, we wipe and the healer abuse begins. The tank then proceeds to start being incredibly childish and pulls 1 mob at a time and just stands in front of it. That run took almost an hour....

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Originally Posted by Tsurayu

That said, I am noticing a growing trend of Paladin tanks who are now suddenly above using their defensive cooldowns.

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I've gotten lucky in end game content that the PLD's haven't been like this, but while leveling WHM, almost every PLD that that came into a dungeon on roulette would do this, and several had an attitude as well.

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Originally Posted by DarkerOrange

I'm fine with clumping a few mobs together if you have a BLM/BRD or two, but I was doing Qarn HM earlier with my SCH and the Tank ran off as soon as we had all loaded in and proceeded to round up literally every mob up to the first boss room.
Ofcourse, we wipe and the healer abuse begins. The tank then proceeds to start being incredibly childish and pulls 1 mob at a time and just stands in front of it. That run took almost an hour....

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That Tank sounds very familiar though i won't name names since i could be banned for it and it's rude. In this situation best thing to do is just sit down and refuse to heal so they kick you and get another group it will take a couple extra minutes to find a new group. There are a couple of Tanks I've encountered in DF that do really ridiculous things then get abusive if they die from it. One of their favorite things to do often is to not aggro mobs properly as they run around finding more mobs so if i try to heal them on the run half the mobs charge at me and kill me and guess who's fault that will be. There are competent Tanks out there who can handle the big pulls properly but a lot of them their ego is bigger than their skill.

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Originally Posted by SummerRider

...that most of his gear is in the 50-60 ilvl range...

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Glad to read the happy end! gg