Marriage feedback [inofficial Poll]

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Originally Posted by Twiddle

Officially asking for feedback does not mean that officially something will happen. I quite honestly do not believe SE will take a side, you guys are thinking about this locally, look at it globally and it's easy to see that. What SE picks will directly impact the product on a global scale.

In some countries games, which 13 year old's play in the US/Canada, are banned. And SE am sure don't want that on their hands, so while feedback will be collected, discussions will be done, and opinions appreciated. Don't hold your breath.

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Name some examples. Cause I sure didn't see that bring such a problem for Skyrim, which also had a worldwide release, Japan included

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Regional servers.. Allow it on a regional server basis lol.

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Server's aren't regional locked, as well. Isn't that playing favorites? How fun would it be if we start dividing the community even further? NA get's this, JP get's that, EU get's something else... that would throw the entire balance (proven we have one) out the window.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

Name some examples. Cause I sure didn't see that bring such a problem for Skyrim, which also had a worldwide release, Japan included

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Skyrim is Skyrim, Skyrim is not ARR. In Skyrim you the PC get married to a NPC of a gender of your choosing. In ARR you a PC can get married to a PC. Comparing apples to bananas here...

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Originally Posted by Twiddle

Server's aren't regional locked, as well. Isn't that playing favorites? How fun would it be if we start dividing the community even further? NA get's this, JP get's that, EU get's something else... that would throw the entire balance (proven we have one) out the window.

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If you choose to play in someone elses region you deal with that region - like language. Content like this I said could be regionally allowed if countries cant handle a differed name system.

Like China cant handle undead and Japanese influenced pandas so Blizzard modified some global assets and local assets to that region.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

If you choose to play in someone elses region you deal with that region - like language. Content like this I said could be regionally allowed if countries cant handle a differed name system.

Like China cant handle undead and Japanese influenced pandas so Blizzard modified some global assets and local assets to that region.

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Region lock server's vs none region lock... You can never play on the china servers and they can never play on yours. SE is not locking the server's so you can play on china server's they can play on yours. Again meaning this is an topic which need's to be looked at as "the big picture" not what you see in the bottom right corner...

Blizzard only look at the corners individually that's why player's out of Blizzards back yard wait 1-2 years for content that's old in NA. Do you really want to wait 6 month's for "localizing" of content? Or would you rather have it which it's fresh out of the oven? One thing i have loved about XI is that when something new came out i got it same day as rest of the world not latter.

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Originally Posted by Twiddle

Skyrim is Skyrim, Skyrim is not ARR. In Skyrim you the PC get married to a NPC of a gender of your choosing. In ARR you a PC can get married to a PC. Comparing apples to bananas here...

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Not exactly. Skyrim has the act of marriage in game, regardless of gender. Ffxi also had marriage, but what it didn't do was check the real life gender of the characters, meaning same RL gender couples could still get the marriage ceremony if one cross played. Interactions with other players is not something that can be rated. So this is already happening with RL people. In fact, as was shown with several posts here, both officially married couples and opposite gender relationships might not be able to get the marriage ceremony because of their choice of character. Not their gender, not romance, just the character creation screen. Is that even remotely fair? Can SE say with a straight face that they and the player's interaction will always uphold the mores of "mystery banning nation X" and its suspected hordes of FF fans hoping that they assume everyone plays their gender?

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Originally Posted by Twiddle

Officially asking for feedback does not mean that officially something will happen. I quite honestly do not believe SE will take a side, you guys are thinking about this locally, look at it globally and it's easy to see that. What SE picks will directly impact the product on a global scale.

In some countries games, which 13 year old's play in the US/Canada, are banned. And SE am sure don't want that on their hands, so while feedback will be collected, discussions will be done, and opinions appreciated. Don't hold your breath.

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A global solution would be to name the system something else and make it not explicitly romantic, as has been suggested many times. I don't think there's global issue with something like that.

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Originally Posted by Twiddle

Region lock server's vs none region lock... You can never play on the china servers and they can never play on yours. SE is not locking the server's so you can play on china server's they can play on yours. Again meaning this is an topic which need's to be looked at as "the big picture" not what you see in the bottom right corner...

Blizzard only look at the corners individually that's why player's out of Blizzards back yard wait 1-2 years for content that's old in NA. Do you really want to wait 6 month's for "localizing" of content? Or would you rather have it which it's fresh out of the oven? One thing i have loved about XI is that when something new came out i got it same day as rest of the world not latter.

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Perhaps the blizzard example isnt best correlate-able because blizzard delays / semi locks servers (how do you think chinese gil sellers get into NA servers ? :P)

However I still stand on the part where if you join a regional server you deal with that region. If you go to Thailand and say fuck the king - trololololololo.

While the borders of real life are harder to hop on and off of, they still exist the internet as well (they are just easier to hop online). The US isnt SSM (not legal in most states) lovers but we can stand the existence of video games. In this case as many have pointed out in game gender has very little to do with outside game gender and unlike these other games that have had same sex relations they often came with graphics which I doubt SE is even going to have any graphic material for their weddings. Otherwise I think a bigger issue in the US will be Galka x Taru for being graphically awkward :P.

All that said it would be preferred to have no server distinctions but the region itself.

Well another step in the solution direction is, to make the game check account info. Every one fills the account info with correct gender and what not information... That way even if you do play a Female character but are male IRL, getting married to another Female character which is in fact a Female in RL would not solve 1/2 the problem.

As well it can be a choice the game could use character information or account information which ever best gives the desired results. That would cover the base for opposite gender couples which don't play opposite characters in game. This way gender in game would not play much of a role if people so choose...

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Originally Posted by Twiddle

Well another step in the solution direction is, to make the game check account info. Every one fills the account info with correct gender and what not information... That way even if you do play a Female character but are male IRL, getting married to another Female character which is in fact a Female in RL would not solve 1/2 the problem.

As well it can be a choice the game could use character information or account information which ever best gives the desired results. That would cover the base for opposite gender couples which don't play opposite characters in game. This way gender in game would not play much of a role if people so choose...

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That is just making sure that real life hetro's can be ritualized but real life homosexuals cannot.

Thats unacceptable..

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Originally Posted by Twiddle

Well another step in the solution direction is, to make the game check account info. Every one fills the account info with correct gender and what not information... That way even if you do play a Female character but are male IRL, getting married to another Female character which is in fact a Female in RL would not solve 1/2 the problem.

As well it can be a choice the game could use character information or account information which ever best gives the desired results. That would cover the base for opposite gender couples which don't play opposite characters in game. This way gender in game would not play much of a role if people so choose...

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The only problem with that is people can lie. And it's still not really marriage equality, like you said it only solves part of the problem.