Ifrit Fight

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Originally Posted by Teknoman

Aw you know what I mean:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xa1Hxz6zNg

The elaborate style of the weapons. Really similar to every 3D FF titles thats come out aside from XI, maybe XII, and XIII.

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I always thought XIII did have elaborate styles. I mean, look at Lightnings sword o nthe front case, or the motorbike the Shiva sisters transform into. they're pretty flashy looking bits of hardware.

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

If I remember correctly blue flames are caused by a fire that's not as hot as an orange flame, usually you see it as a fire is almost burnt out, or at the base of bunsen burners also as that's where the gas is projected from before it's set alight (so it hasn't built to full heat to become orange untill further into the flame), so if we were to look at it in a realistic sense, every time Ifrit breathed fire or used his 'hellfire' skill, there would be blue fire mixed in with the orange fire.

There is also white fire but that is from a flame that is hotter than orange fire, which would look kind of weird (people would mistake it for holy or something ;) )

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(Hot)Red/Orange > Blue > White (Hottest).. The bunsen burner has orange and blue fire because the Blue fire has high oxygen involved, so its pure burning, compared to incomplete burning(orange) producing soot.

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

I always thought XIII did have elaborate styles. I mean, look at Lightnings sword o nthe front case, or the motorbike the Shiva sisters transform into. they're pretty flashy looking bits of hardware.

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They're elaborate, but they dont have bright glowing or crystal sections. Imo the stuff looks closer to what we saw with Amano art back in the day.

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Originally Posted by Synapse

(Hot)Red/Orange > Blue > White (Hottest).. The bunsen burner has orange and blue fire because the Blue fire has high oxygen involved, so its pure burning, compared to incomplete burning(orange) producing soot.

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Oh yeah.

Well spotted. Been 10 years since my last chemistry lesson so I'm a little bit rusty on this, had a feeling I'd gotten it backwards somewhere though. ^.^

lol... i love how now the design is being hated on when awhile back weren't people crying over reskins and just little add ons to previous gear? This at least is original and new..

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Originally Posted by CrystalArisia

lol... i love how now the design is being hated on when awhile back weren't people crying over reskins and just little add ons to previous gear? This at least is original and new..

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I read that then was about to say "I hope the rank 30 ifrit fight drops a glowing fiery plate-mail bikini-top so I can look hot" but then my sense of good taste kicked in and I decided not to say it.

Oh wait... I just did...

Damnit!

They're not terrible in design though the PGL weapon makes me puke with how...it doesn't look like a conventional weapon for H2H, and the ARC bow is way too heavy-looking to the point where it seems unfeasible to even lift it and fire. The wand looks like a cylinder than a real wand...

The rest of the weapons are stuff I'd expect in a Final Fantasy game, though...they look more 'normal' to Final Fantasy proportions. I just wish they'd redesign the h2h, bow and wand to be thinner or just looks more feasible to wield like thinning out the fat portions.

Overall I'd appreciate thinning out the size of the horns in the weapons. The subtle glows are pretty good.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

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They are too over-the-top. Especially the bow. Good bye classiness, was nice knowing ya!

If you had to outsource your development to Korea, you could have at least told us.

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really? really? the old weapons were classy? I think what you meant to say was this: "good bye bland, generic weapons that all look the same but have slightly different skins." These new weapons look amazing. you are crazy. this community is so ass backwards - cant believe people actually gave you thumbs up for that. This is final fantasy, and for the first time, they are being true to their IP.

And Cloud's buster sword, Yuffie's shuriken and Auron's sword were all perfectly acceptable and usable sizes...

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

And Cloud's buster sword, Yuffie's shuriken and Auron's sword were all perfectly acceptable and usable sizes...

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When the complainers mention final fantasy they mean FFXI. This is just another i want this to be FFXI-2 thread whether they admit it or not.

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Originally Posted by lenn1

When the complainers mention final fantasy they mean FFXI. This is just another i want this to be FFXI-2 thread whether they admit it or not.

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Actually thats the only one I don't think of, as I didn't play it for long.. :p
so Nernern ner ner..

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Originally Posted by lenn1

When the complainers mention final fantasy they mean FFXI. This is just another i want this to be FFXI-2 thread whether they admit it or not.

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Lol true enough.

I'd prefer FF to keep to it's roots rather than try to sit around a realistic idealism.

If giant monsters start appearing and trying to chew my face off, I don't want to be taking them on with a copper sword, I want to be stabbing them with something that looks like satan himself forged it from the fires of his own oven.

Players asked for glowing weapons: check
Players asked for not over the top glowing weapons with fire bursting all over: check
Players asked for no glowing weapons while in cities because it's not immersive(in town most players in passive): check
Players wanted new designs instead of re-skinned weapons: check

Players still complaining how it's too much or too different: check
Players complaining how it's not realistic: check
Players complaining how it's not Final Fantasy: ...I don't even...
Players complaining about how it's too Korean: check

FFXIV devs, I would just like to apologize for how ridiculous some players are. They will never be happy no matter what you give them. They will always complain about stupid s*** and will never be satisfied no matter what direction you take.

P.S. GJ love the designs. The only one that's questionable is the Thm scepter with it's blue balls. ;)

Only issue I have with the weapons is for most of them it looks like a conversation happened.

Dev1: We need Ifirit battle loot! but what will it look like?
Dev2: Ifirit has horns right? We make weapons out of horns all the time!
Dev1: Great! Now lets just slam horns on everything and call it a day.

I don't mind the look of them or the glow, I just find it strange that every item just looks like they merged Ifirit .dat data into a weapon.

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Originally Posted by DGMart

Players asked for glowing weapons: check
Players asked for not over the top glowing weapons with fire bursting all over: check
Players asked for no glowing weapons while in cities because it's not immersive(in town most players in passive): check
Players wanted new designs instead of re-skinned weapons: check

Players still complaining how it's too much or too different: check
Players complaining how it's not realistic: check
Players complaining how it's not Final Fantasy: ...I don't even...
Players complaining about how it's too Korean: check

FFXIV devs, I would just like to apologize for how ridiculous some players are. They will never be happy no matter what you give them. They will always complain about stupid s*** and will never be satisfied no matter what direction you take.

P.S. GJ love the designs. The only one that's questionable is the Thm scepter with it's blue balls. ;)

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I don't like the weapons. They seem... gaudy. I like to run as a PUG, but I wouldn't use that weapon unless it had some amazing stats. Reminds me of the Monster Hunter games. Great franchise, but I don't feel that weapons like that fit well into this game. Looks like big chunks of a mob we kill and turn into a weapon. The glowing is nice for the "epicness" but I think they are a little too big. They look kind of blunt and soft too. Overall I am not dissapointed because the fight with Ifrit looks amazing in the video. Either way, I feel that SE is delivering well. I just don't like those weapons. :/

I have never played FFXI, so I cannot compare these weapons to anything from there. I have however played every FF console game. this is my first MMO, so maybe these designs are to be expected?

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Only issue I have with the weapons is for most of them it looks like a conversation happened.

Dev1: We need Ifirit battle loot! but what will it look like?
Dev2: Ifirit has horns right? We make weapons out of horns all the time!
Dev1: Great! Now lets just slam horns on everything and call it a day.

I don't mind the look of them or the glow, I just find it strange that every item just looks like they merged Ifirit .dat data into a weapon.

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I see nothing wrong with this conversation ;)

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Originally Posted by Sagagemini

People complaining that new weapons aren't realistic enough.
Seriously, go die in a bus fire.

This is a goddamn game.
You're a fighting a huge *** fire spitting monster.

Go buy yourself a Katana and put it in your shelf if you want a more realistic weapon to admire.

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IT does't change the fact that the Bow and Knucks look completely ridiculous. The bow could have been made to have the fire and glow without like those wielding it should be falling forward from the weight.

All the other weapons look fine, even the gladiator sword. Where's my flaming fishing rod?

Makes Batraal look like a pussy, Ifrit will kill us all!!!

Maybe if they made the bow a bit smaller... BUT SET THE BOW STRING ON FIRE!!!! >:-D

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Originally Posted by Vesper

Wow the knuckles and bow are way over the top wtf? lol How the hell can an archer even shoot that without falling forward?

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Doesn't matter, soon all he'll be doing is using it as a harp. /sarcasm off.

I dont think i can read through 43 pages of comments. Has there been any word that you can fight ifrit multiple times?

If anything these weapons are monster hunterish

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Originally Posted by Vesper

IT does't change the fact that the Bow and Knucks look completely ridiculous. The bow could have been made to have the fire and glow without like those wielding it should be falling forward from the weight.

All the other weapons look fine, even the gladiator sword. Where's my flaming fishing rod?

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Just because something looks big does not mean it weigh's a lot... some people actualy think G.Swords weigh like 20 pounds when they only weigh like 6 pounds.......Don't let the image fool you...

I thought a great sword was supposed to have weight as a factor in helping it overcome any kind of defense as it is nowhere near as versatile as a one handed sword?

I'm assuming ifrit's bow is made of rock and horn. Unless these are of styrofoam I highly doubt they'd have a good enough weight to support the aim/pull of a bow.

I wonder what the Japanese players are saying about these weapons...

I love them, just wished the Thm one looked more scepter looking.

Why do you guys keep bringing up weight... Come on, this is Final Fantasy. Stop comparing everything to real life.

Awesome job, SE. Now that's what I call appropriate loot (for a primal battle that is). :D

http://andriasang.com/comydi/
for those of you complaining about it being to Korean or outrageous, look at these JP game weapon art designs and implementation, you think what we have is OOT and huge, take a look at that polearm!

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Originally Posted by Xmbei

http://andriasang.com/comydi/
for those of you complaining about it being to Korean or outrageous, look at these JP game weapon art designs and implementation, you think what we have is OOT and huge, take a look at that polearm!

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I WANT THAT HAMMER!!!!

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

I WANT THAT HAMMER!!!!

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actually that even goes with pointing out it is nothing new to people saying "that bow is to big archer will fall over" that hammer is bigger than that chick and she is swinging it with easy. Which just proves, people want fan service a hot anime girl swinging a huge weapon.

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Originally Posted by Xmbei

actually that even goes with pointing out it is nothing new to people saying "that bow is to big archer will fall over" that hammer is bigger than that chick and she is swinging it with easy. Which just proves, people want fan service a hot anime girl swinging a huge weapon.

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Actually I was just picturing smashing a Molbol over the head with that hammer like a giant whack-a-mole. Had aaaabsolutely nothing to do with fan service at all.

That guy in the pictures is cute though.

Just stating I don't have a problem with the direction FFXIV is going it still has the appropriate world feel, after seeing those pictures and stating we aren't getting those weapons to model ratio I think it is safe to say we are fine.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

As unlikely as it is, it is still more likely than if the 'fans' were around shutting down every criticism anyone may have had with the game back then.

Nothing is different and you are the cancer this time.

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You, and others like you, have allowed yourselves to become jaded to the point where now it doesn't matter what SE does. Your knee-jerk reaction will be to complain about it.

In your minds, you have a legitimate basis for your gripe, but in reality all you're doing is nitpicking.

Ifrit...awesome, the weapons...awesome....my issue? The damn area it takes place. Same with the beastmen strongholds, it shows how much i really dont like the current world. They seem to need to put everything in these piss poor zones instead of separate areas and it just gets to me and almost ruins those events for me.

...the world re-design can not come any quicker..

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Originally Posted by Isaaru

QTF


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QFTx2! .

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Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess

QFTx2! .

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GAH!

Your sig is even scarier now!! >.<

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

GAH!

Your sig is even scarier now!! >.<

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Well my sig from before was supposedly "disturbing, creepy, inappropriate" Now it really is! :D

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Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess

Well my sig from before was supposedly "disturbing, creepy, inappropriate" Now it really is! :D

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