BLM vs Bard

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Originally Posted by arctic

Well, actually looking at your rotation, this explains a lot. Look, I noticed we're on the same server. I have some blackmages that can give you some feed back on optimizing your rotation and show you how to start "double dipping buffs."

If you want to take me up on it. I'll be in game about an hour when the servers come back up.

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^ If you loved your job, you would take this offer regardless to hear them out. Put your ego aside, there is always room for improvement.

From all the stuff I've been doing id argue the dragoon does as much or more dmg than the bard/blm. I find that this gamr is more on players needing to learn rotations and watch procs. Gear yes but I've seen plenty of amazing dps come from drg and monks who KNOW how to play their class. Too many people even at 50 don't know what their own skills and rotations do. I seen a 50 bard who said that we don't have a tp song............
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DPS Averages
Gear: Relic +1, Full Darklight, AK appropriate secondary ring.

Ideal Conditions: SMN(350) MNK(295) LNC(280) *BLM(270) **BRD(180-220)

Realistic Conditions: MNK(235) SMN(210) *BLM(200) LNC(190) **BRD(180-220)

*BLM results can vary quite drastically based on Flare critical hits and Thundercloud procs. BLM has seen as low as 170 and as high as 230

**BRD dps varies based on how much they are required to sing. Sometimes they are a bit higher or a bit lower depending on conditions.

Sneak peak on compiled data :P

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Originally Posted by Blank0022

From all the stuff I've been doing id argue the dragoon does as much or more dmg than the bard/blm. I find that this gamr is more on players needing to learn rotations and watch procs. Gear yes but I've seen plenty of amazing dps come from drg and monks who KNOW how to play their class. Too many people even at 50 don't know what their own skills and rotations do. I seen a 50 bard who said that we don't have a tp song............
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Jobs don't learn skills by level up. It's perfectly possible that he stopped jobs quests on 30 or 35 and never knew (or even had a preview) that a TP song exists because he (*chuckles*) couldn't beat the earlier job quests.

The op can start by figuring out he does have an insta cast spell for on the move moments, a blm who is not constantly doing dmg is doing it wrong. every fight ive been that requires me to move constantly even when getting out of that big orange circle of doom im using scathe to keep my dmg going. I dont run and do jack squat then come to the fourms and complain about another class that can do damage on the move. The fact that every class has some sort of range ability they can use while on the move (learn to strafe) means there are always ways to maximize your dps regardless of the situation.

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Originally Posted by CursedCoffee

DPS Averages
Gear: Relic +1, Full Darklight, AK appropriate secondary ring.

Ideal Conditions: SMN(350) MNK(295) LNC(280) *BLM(270) **BRD(180-220)

Realistic Conditions: MNK(235) SMN(210) *BLM(200) LNC(190) **BRD(180-220)

*BLM results can vary quite drastically based on Flare critical hits and Thundercloud procs. BLM has seen as low as 170 and as high as 230

**BRD dps varies based on how much they are required to sing. Sometimes they are a bit higher or a bit lower depending on conditions.

Sneak peak on compiled data :P

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A friend of mine clocked me at 180 DPS on the final boss in ak....I havn't received my relic yet...I think it really comes down to the player not the class.

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Originally Posted by TaitoTots

A friend of mine clocked me at 180 DPS on the final boss in ak....I havn't received my relic yet...I think it really comes down to the player not the class.

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They stated their data was based off Titan HM and Binding Coil. Not AK.

220 is being generous for Bard. Even with a relic, your normal dps would be maybe 200.

Bard does lose some dps against Titan. You won't always be able to apply dots right as they fall off because you're too busy staying alive.

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Originally Posted by CursedCoffee

DPS Averages
Gear: Relic +1, Full Darklight, AK appropriate secondary ring.

Ideal Conditions: SMN(350) MNK(295) LNC(280) *BLM(270) **BRD(180-220)

Realistic Conditions: MNK(235) SMN(210) *BLM(200) LNC(190) **BRD(180-220)


Sneak peak on compiled data :P

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This is very inaccurate if it doesn't include using buffs and potions/food.

If a BRD uses Raging Strikes, Blood for Blood, Hawk's Eye, Internal Release, Barrage and an HQ Mega-Potion of Dexterity, they easily blow other DPS away,....in that 10 seconds. Also BRD's Foe Req allows their Venom Bite, Flaming Arrow and Wind Bite to do more dmg due to Elemental Resist being reduced by 10% w/o the BRD's dmg themselves being reduced 20%. Add "Battle Voice" and it's even more.

I use this setup and i blow other DPS out of the water easily. Also their DPS VARIES ALOT depending on how many times Blood Vow resets.

why bows have lower dmg than other weapons ? :(