Amdapor Keep Changes Unfair

Average AK runs are 40-50min now with premade groups wearing ilvl 60 gear and up. If you want speed spend some time making good groups on your own server and ditch DF, a good friendlist is worth the time and effort and will save you hours of frustration from the DF randomness.

To max out Myth tokens you need like 8 runs per week which is like 1 AK run per day or 8-9 hours of game time. That is roughly a grind in my book and gives you loads of time to do other stuff even as a casual. People talking bout grinds do not understand how to play an mmo, you are not supposed to just spam dungeons all day there are myriad of other stuff to do.

I agree that a small buff in trash loot is needed so it at least gives u a sense of not just being a barrier till the next boss, i am certain S/E will balance things up as they are already doing, just give it some time.

The idea to speedrun through these dungeons was stupid and you should have known that SE will 100% stop this. AF2 gear is something you are supposed to "work" for which will take time and which will give them time to create new content. This stuff is endgame after all.

People are exploiting Castrum Meridiumum now, too. Just got into a group that did it even though not everyone wanted to do it. It's honestly ruining the game. And guess what, SE will now increase mob sizes to the dungeon, just like what they did with Amdapor. After these exploiters get their gear, they punish the ones who didn't exploit. Great. These speed runs are getting out of control and I hope SE drops the ban hammer soon.

Or they could make the content interesting and not like a second real world job.

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Originally Posted by Desolas

Or they could make the content interesting and not like a second real world job.

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It is an MMO it is supposed to take long. How else could SE then keep up with new content? It is no 10 or 3 day investment. Why do you think stuff like Guild wars 2 became less and less populated? Because you could get 100% in like 3 days if you really wanted to.

If you are thinking endgame takes too long then maybe an MMO is not the right game for you.

Endgame contents required high-level gears.

High-level gears required tomestones from Endgame contents.

WHAT?

It's like a large gate that keep slamming new lv50 players out of the game.

Personally, I don't care what everyone else Ian doing, or how they cheated for an advantage. I am here with friends to play and have fun. Be an elitist and live in moms basement all you want. I don't mind having to farm " or actually play right " to achieve things.

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Originally Posted by Darji

It is an MMO it is supposed to take long. How else could SE then keep up with new content? It is no 10 or 3 day investment.

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What is the problem with people constantly failing to understand that something taking time does not mean it has to be mind-numbingly boring?

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Why do you think stuff like Guild wars 2 became less and less populated? Because you could get 100% in like 3 days if you really wanted to.

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Or maybe it just had something to do with the weak core mechanics that the game was built upon. There's plenty of grinding based content that could last you months upon months in that game, but it's not worth doing because it's so damn boring.

People didn't leave because there was no end game content. They left because the end game content was a mindless grind. Sounds fairly familiar, doesn't it?

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If you are thinking endgame takes too long then maybe an MMO is not the right game for you.

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Says the guy who already got Darklight gear.

All the people who are happy that a boring dungeon takes longer need to ... go away or learn to read.

First of all, how does doing something fast effect you in any way? If you want to go super slow to everything, nobody is stopping you, take your time buddy, see ya when you get here! Second, to those saying “what do you do when you run out of content and have to wait months for SE to patch?” I'm not sure you saw how many classes and jobs are in the game. Even for those who beat all the content in the game now on one class, have a lot of other content to do on many other classes. So content running out isn't the issue. Don't forget chocobos take 5000 years to level. Third, nobody here is saying the run shouldn't be long. They're saying it shouldn't be boring, or that trash should be more than just a repair bill. They're saying give us more than 1 place to run things.

NOBODY is asking for free items. They're asking to have a fun enjoyable endgame grind. I don't care if in *insert game here* the grind was way longer or way harder or way more boring. This isn't that game. It shouldn't have to be as equally crappy. The pace should be picked up, not slowed down. We don't just have 1 class to grind we have many. Remember that when you talk about how the game shouldn't just hand out items. Because nobody is asking for handouts, they’re asking to have a good time. And if you’re the person who thinks that you should only have 1 thing to do and you have to it over and over and over and over for 60 hours. You should never ever be in charge of game content.

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Originally Posted by Kiteless

Says the guy who already got Darklight gear.

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I never did speedruns. I did farm runs but never speed run. Also this is AF1 Darklight stuff not 2. I am waiting right now for my group to have time to farm the keep.

Also how do you make enjoyable grind endgame content? If you do it over and over again it is always boring and to be honest. I think running to some place than die just to fight one boss is really boring to me. I like it to do stuff with people. So what if it takes 1 hour? You can only do 8 runs a week anyway.