Anti-Speed Run Mechanism

Mobs dropping a good amount of gil would be my idea for making trash worthwhile.

Maybe implement some sort of mechanic that gives you gil at the end of the a dungeon based on-

1) How many trash mobs you killed
2) How fast you finished the dungeon
3) How many people died/how many times you wiped.

And this wouldnt just be for 50 dungeons. It would be for every dungeon, giving you some incentive to help your leveling friends with their leveling dungeons, or maybe even to DO dungeons on your secondary classes. I dont know about most people, but if it isnt a 50 dungeon, Ive only done it once for story/GC hunting logs. The EXP is atrocious and you'll replace any loot you get quickly. And it should be a significant amount of gil becaue right now there are no ways to MAKE gil. You can earn it, sure, but the amount of gil leaving the economy seems to outweigh the amount coming in, at least after 50.

Totally prepared to leave FF14 due to how SE handled this. They're not solving the issue but instead gave us a shoddy "fix" that players have to ultimately pay for.

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Originally Posted by Bov

i doubt it, they changed mob aggro time as well as their ability to attack you on the run so im almost positive the pld will die before pt can kill the lunatics, even with full relics. I just did a few runs and actually died before getting to the seal

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If i can get the pet alone without getting even hit by a mob till i reach the treasure, it should be possible for a tank to survieve that long when he kites them.

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Originally Posted by Lucke

Well, by that logic, why not have the only things in the dungeon be the bosses? Let's just get rid of all mobs

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Why not make more dungeons? Why not make tedious content more rewarding?

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Originally Posted by Ryuni

That's not a valid excuse for any MMO.

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It is when the company in question is asking you to spend 50 hours doing something just to get to the only part of the game that matters.

2 dungeons, 3 easy primals that fall over dead and a raid the lead developer thinks only 100 people are going to complete isn't "endgame content", love. Especially when it's gated by a shamelessly throttled grind.

That's just a flop.

I sure hope the implementation of PvP to this game goes better than their presentation of endgame content.

/sigh what you have to understand is it already requires a huge amount of tomes to gear up. Why in the world would i want to have 45 min runs for 80 tomes...when i need 1320 "just" for 1 piece. Grinding for hours for just 1 piece of gear would get ridiculous especially considering that some people have more than one job to gear up.

Sorry, but if you played FFXI did any of you "ambiance" seekers clear trash to bcnms like for storyline or did you sneak/invis past as much as possible (don't lie you avoided aggro like the plague) this is, because the first time you run a dungeon its fun and exciting, but why should that require the tedium of constant pointless encounters. Oh and btw you'll have to run AK about 60 times so have fun with your near hour runs.

Hah, exploitters just whine now since they have to actually do something to accomplish the dungeon. This is hilarious.

As a tank I found it a bit annoying when TOLD to speed run it.. hello you paying my repair bill? What they really need is a gear check, people are going into AK as soon as they can and they are not putting out the DPS needed to complete the place no less in time.

Saw someone else suggest this, but make every trash mob drop a tomestone. It takes too long to queue up. If trash had an incentive we would kill it. Spending time to kill trash mobs, only to have ONE player receive a single gil is infuriating.

For all the people thinking that this fixes rage your sadly mistaken. This will only compound issues where crappy dps players are raged at or people leave the instanced before starting.

After all now that you have to clear trash, dps needs to be strong to clear quickly and people won't bother putting up with poorly geared dps who typically wouldn't clear the first boss anyway. As you have to waste 10 min getting there through trash.

1.0 had speed runs right. Even clearing trash properly allowed you to clear cc av in a short amount of time.