Oh, I don't know, because the company is trying to keep it's head about water and remaking a cult classic like FFVII stands to lose them a lot if not received well? Yeah, that'd be my guess. But then again, perhaps we all haven't learned much from George Lucas' mistakes with his original SW trilogy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rannie
Yes, every new game IS a risk. But we're not talking about new games. We're talking about FFVII. That's not just a risk. That's a BIG, uncalled for, unneeded risk. That's a "You are asking someone to shoot an apple off your head with a blindfold on in the hopes that you don't die and people watching being so amused by it that they'll throw you a dollar or two" risk. Taking a risk on a new game is one thing for a company that's barely staying afloat. But taking a game that has such a place amongst the biggest of the biggest of games and remaking it for the sake of appeasing a few screaming fanboys and fangirls, that's stupid. No matter how you want to try to spin it as otherwise, it's just... stupid.Quote:
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lol My my, you sound so young. Here's some familiar terms used by game developing companies when talking abou tsomehting they're not going to do but won't say that outright because they don't want to make rabid fanboys angry...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rannie
"We'll see."
"Perhaps. We'll look into it."
"We have no plans for it as of now."
"We are concentrating on other projects at present."
"Thank you for your input. we value your opinion."
Look, it has been years, YEARS, since the first few fanboys have cried about this. And it still hasn't happened. Heck, Squeenix has remade almost every other Final Fantasy except VII, as if they were trying to tell you in no very subtle way without saying point blank "NO". I just don't get why you and so many others won't get the message. You know what, I won't even say it won't happen. Heck, anything's possible. It could also snow in hell, but I wouldn't hold my breath for that either.
K, we have the FFX remake in HD, the Kingdom Hearts stuff, okay, okay... tell me, are either of these two games as huge in cult and classic status as Final Fantasy VII? (sigh) On second thought, don't bother answering. We both know the answer. You're just not listening. It's not if they CAN do it that's the factor... of COURSE they could do it! Geez, I've seen Crisis Core, I know they can redo the game to look all Pixar-like pretty. It's if they SHOULD do it. And the answer is no, they shouldn't. Some things should be left alone for the sake of leaving it as it is. There are other ways for Squeenix to make cash. Messing with FFVII is not the smartest way, and could easily backfire in irrevocable ways. Besides, if money is an issue, just make it so people can download the game for a price... oh wait, they've done that. So... yeah.Quote:
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04-09-2013, 01:37 PMSkyeWindbinder
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04-09-2013, 01:42 PMRannieQuote:
Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder
Honey I'm well in my 30's i remember when VII first came out on the ps. Hell I remember when the first NES came out. Btw Why do you keep saying VII is a cult classic? The game didn't fail or was unsuccessful when it first came out.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CultClassic
Final Fantasy VII was both a critical and commercial success, and set several sales records. Within three days of its release in Japan, the game had sold 2.3 million copies.[5] This popularity inspired thousands of retailers in North America to break street dates in September to meet public demand for the title.[85] In the game's debut weekend in North America, it sold 330,000 copies,[86] and had reached sales of 500,000 units in less than three weeks.[87] The momentum established in the game's opening weeks continued for several months; Sony announced the game had sold one million copies in North America by early December,[88] prompting business analyst Edward Williams from Monness, Crespi, Hardt & Co. to comment, "Sony redefined the role-playing game (RPG) category and expanded the conventional audience with the launch of Final Fantasy VII."[88] As of December 25, 2005, the game had sold over 9.8 million copies worldwide,[89] making it the highest-selling game in the Final Fantasy series.[90] Final Fantasy VII is credited as "the game that sold the PlayStation," as well as allowing role-playing games to find a place in markets outside Japan. As of May 2010, it had sold 10 million copies worldwide,[91] making it the most popular title in the series in terms of units sold.
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04-09-2013, 01:47 PMSkyeWindbinderOne definition of "Cult classic" is something that is highly successful yet appeals to only certain kinds of people. FFVII appeals to RPG gamers mostly. And it also helped pull a lot of people into the genre. Not everyone is an RPG gamer, so it doesn't appeal to everyone. But it sure appealed to enough people to make it one of the most successful games of all time. Yeah, I've read those sources too. And THEN some. lolQuote:
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04-09-2013, 01:50 PMRannieYou know I'm finished I just gave you a link to tvtropes on what a cult classic is. Final Fantasy VII doesn't fall into the cult classic it's not Firefly or the Evil Dead Trilogy. It's more like Sailor Moon or Dragon Ball Z in it's respect.Quote:
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04-09-2013, 01:57 PMSkyeWindbinderAs I said, another definition of cult classic is something that appeals to something within it's receiving base. Which is a fine way to describe a video game as opposed to a TV series or movie. It's for RPG players mostly. But if it disturbs you for me to describe it that way, so be it. I'll stop calling it that and just call it a "high-end classic".Quote:
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I guess now we can go back to you trying to tell everyone a good reason to give FFVII a makeover other than "But we want it! So it's GOT to work! We the fans!" lol -
04-09-2013, 02:10 PMVequiQuote:
Originally Posted by Rannie
If FFVII appeals to RPG fans mostly, how come it has sold 10 million copies worldwide?Quote:
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Since the game has been that popular it seems like it could do well if the game got the makeover to look more awesome and put back in the market.
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04-09-2013, 02:17 PMSkyeWindbinderThe same reason Call of Duty sells so well despite the fact that it appeals to shooters mostly. It's popular and well known.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vequi
I'm sorry, but for such a move, you're going to need more than "But a lot of people like the original, so let's gussie it up and put it back on the market with a new coat of paint" as a good reason. There are many things to consider with remaking FFVII. As I said before, I was once in the "Let's do it! Because we want it!" camp, but after thinking about it for a while, I see why it hasn't been done, and why it will likely never be done.Quote:
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Indeed, who knows? This could also happen...Quote:
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04-09-2013, 02:21 PMReynhartSE still sells Final Fantasy IV on the PSN, yet they remade it twice on recent handheld consoles, and on iOS.Quote:
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04-09-2013, 02:26 PMSkyeWindbinderWell, has FFIV reached cult... oh, I'm sorry... let me rephrase that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Reynhart
Has FFIV reached the "high status as a well-known and well-received classic" among fans and gamers worldwide that FFVII has? Is it on top of that pedestal? Is it even on the pedestal? Heck, is it even near the pedestal?
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04-09-2013, 02:47 PMReynhart
You have to keep explaining this because it's not an explanation.
"Because FF VII is a cult classic" is not a valid point for note remaking it. You don't do remakes of what didn't work.
We keep showing you similar situations where a remake is done, and your argument is still "because it's FF VII". I'm pretty sure no economic law says "Don't do FF VII remakes", but it's probably ignorance on my part.
By the way, you want another cult game ? Let's say "Zelda : Ocarina Of time". I'm pretty sure it was remade recently.
Maybe now you'll say "It's totally different, it's not Final Fantasy"...
Even the first two Pokemon games were remade...and they sold FAAAAAAR better than FF VII...pffff, even the two remakes combined sold more than FFVII...