SE Rep - can you share with us the criteria for selection of Alpha testers

Redundant threads are...

well, not to meme but they're redundant. That is against forum rules. Wouldn't be surprised to see this thread go.

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Originally Posted by Abriael

Nope. Sorry. That's a bit shaky a defense.

In no indutry and no subscription game of this industry a lapsed account is referred to as "active". It's a very precise term not subject to interpretation.

An "active" account on pay 2 play game is an account where billing is still active and is still enabled to play. Lapsed accounts di not fit in that definition.

If SE really meant that (and I doubt it), then their wording was simply very much inappropriate, and criticism to it is very much warranted.

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The problem here would be that S-E differentiates between things. An active Final Fantasy XIV service accounts doesn't particularly mean you can play the game. It's just that you've created the service acc in S-E manager. After that you have "Options" that are required to play the game. Blame the convoluted system.

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Originally Posted by Lapulapu

Redundant threads are...

well, not to meme but they're redundant. That is against forum rules. Wouldn't be surprised to see this thread go.

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link me to the redundancy

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Originally Posted by Lapulapu

Redundant threads are...

well, not to meme but they're redundant. That is against forum rules. Wouldn't be surprised to see this thread go.

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A thread is not redundant just because you disagree with it. And even in case of redundant threads, basic moderation 101 would suggest merging or locking. Deletion is an extreme measure, and rather disrespectful of the posters' time.

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Originally Posted by Gokulo

The problem here would be that S-E differentiates between things. An active Final Fantasy XIV service accounts doesn't particularly mean you can play the game. It's just that you've created the service acc in S-E manager. After that you have "Options" that are required to play the game. Blame the convoluted system.

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Sorry but no. When you write rules within an industry, you use the lingo of that industy. You don't invent your own just to cause confusion. Besides, lapsed Final Fantasy XIV accounts aren't marked "active" anywhere, so your defence of an obvious PR blunder is a tad misplaced.

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Originally Posted by Gokulo

The problem here would be that S-E differentiates between things. An active Final Fantasy XIV service accounts doesn't particularly mean you can play the game. It's just that you've created the service acc in S-E manager. After that you have "Options" that are required to play the game. Blame the convoluted system.

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You also need an active account to post on these forums. And guess what, it means you are paying for the account not just "made it"

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Originally Posted by nokinator

link me to the redundancy

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Alpha-invites
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ead-of-dispair
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...eres-my-inv-SE!

Not to mention the one they just deleted.

I'm not disagreeing with anyone I'm just saying that these threads all are very similar and we don't need 5 threads to talk about the same thing. Not hating on anyone.

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Originally Posted by Lapulapu

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Alpha-invites
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ead-of-dispair
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...eres-my-inv-SE!

Not to mention the one they just deleted.

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And why, pray tell, just that one (that exposed a rather large PR blunder, differently from the others) was deleted?

Around here we call this kind of attitude aimed at defending an indefensible course of action "climbing mirrors". They're slippery, and trying to climb em makes you look bloody awkward.

I'm neutral here but, how is this thread relevant to those 3?

That isn't redundant at all.

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Originally Posted by Abriael

Wow, they really went as far as deleting the thread abbout people with inactive accounts getting into the alpha.

That's quite bad form....

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Not really, they were just harvesting those fully ripened /ragetears.

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Originally Posted by Aenarion

Not really, they were just harvesting those fully ripened /ragetears.

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LOL Hope they don't drown!