Why do we have to dwell on meaningless issues?

How awesome it must be to be a white straight male and not have to deal with such meaningless things like demanding not to be treated like a second class human being.

+1 for the female body and acknowledgement etc!

I, for one, welcome the coming implementation of breast physics.

Not "Dwelling" about issues and accepting everything SE does = Wada releasing 1.0 when even the project lead of it said it's not ready to be released.

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Originally Posted by Tigercub

Do you want a community where you feel welcome, even embraced? Where people have your back in general and you have theirs? It's not going to happen if we continue in this downward spiral of nitpicking.

We're tearing our community apart by arguing over the most inane crap imaginable. It's not a legal requirement to be contrary about everything while using the internet. If you disagree with someone, think about how important the issue really is, consider letting it slide. Nobody wants to play an MMO full of assholes who object to anything and everything - it's easier to go play a single player game. We all have the potential to not be an asshole. Seize it today. SE is doing their part, so do yours and make ARR a better place.

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There's no downward spiral. The forums have been like this since Day 1 lol. At first it was more about the actual game but as time went on and things got fixed the issues became what you see today. And now we're at a point where we don't know a whole lot about anything so we discuss what we can. Don't think the community here's getting worse though, it's always been awful.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Not "Dwelling" about issues and accepting everything SE does = Wada releasing 1.0 when even the project lead of it said it's not ready to be released.

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Slightly off topic there much?

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Originally Posted by Draxis_Fallspear

OP, you may want to learn the following formula: "in my opinion". It would actually make me want to read your whole post.

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Sounds like that's your problem.
Not the OP's.

Oh, wait... I meant...
*Ahem* In my opinion, it sounds like that's your problem.

"Why do we have to dwell on meaningless issues?"

Because, FFXIV Forum. It is in this species nature to argue about grass, jumping, and many many many many other trivial matters.

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Originally Posted by Syrokko

Sounds like that's your problem.
Not the OP's.

Oh, wait... I meant...
*Ahem* In my opinion, it sounds like that's your problem.

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Speaking in absolutes doesn't make your point any more valid. I'm sorry if my response came across as rude, but I think it's pretty rude to say that social topics are meaningless in a social game environment. It's also a pretty juvenile way to express your point of view. But, hey, if that floats your boat, keep at it. :)

I agree that alot of these issues seem meaningless in terms of a video game , but I also agree that there is not alot of much else to talk about while we wait for the game to come out. I'm sort of neutral.


So talk away!!!! ;)

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Originally Posted by Laiferr

Hello! I'm sorry to hear you were angered by my thread. I appreciate the topic isn't for everyone. Likewise, there are many topics I don't like on this board, but I just read them and then close the tab. Not everyone is going to like the same topic. 'Variety is the spice of life' :)

I think if we're going to talk about problems with this forum, we might want to address the issue of reading comprehension. Take yourself, for example, CSLionheart. You berate my thread, going on to talk about swimsuits, phrasing it in such a way as if I denoted I had an issue with them. That's quite unusual, considering the third paragraph of my opening post talks about swimsuits and why I was OK with them. It's quite strange people would take the time to scorn a thread, yet seemingly didn't comprehend the most basic of its content. Perhaps they only read the title?

So we now have another thread which, after ten pages, people are still lambasting my thread as hating on sexy gear. It's really strange, since if you actually take the time to read the thread, I don't ever say that I feel there should be no sexy gear. If you actually read the thread you'll notice I joke about subligars, say I like the breast size option and don't mind the coliseum gear. It's quite weird how people read things which aren't there!

But, hey, I got what I wanted from the discussion, some others actually understood what I was talking about, even if they politely disagreed with me :) but according to others I'm a basement dwelling ugly purist nerd who is most likely a man, hates all sexy gear, doesn't want a breast size option and thinks large chests are sexist. It's quite extraordinary, slightly amusing, but a little sad :(

So on this topic, can anyone suggest another discussion board where the level of reading comprehension is a bit higher? I had been warned about this forum, but I wasn't aware of any decent alternatives. :) thanks!

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I am going to be completely honest honest with you, and i hope you can respect that as I am not trying to attack you per se, even though you seem to have not problem doing it in this post, but your OP was for lack of a better term "weak".

You claim people did not read your thread yet I read your post and the entire thread after (mistake on my part). You kept changing what you wanted people to take from the thread and it was really easy for people to be fixated on gear and what not as you DID mention it, with the whole picture of the hyur in coliseum thing, and other instances. While if you really dig in to it and connect imaginary dots some could extrapolate other issues you had problems with, but you were very vague. You pulled very small issues you saw, that largely seem to be your own personal experience according to others in the thread, and twisted them to inject a politically charged debate in to a video game.

It is like the dev team makes one joke during a conference then they go home and lock their wives in the kitchen. The problem is people are going too far with their politics and it is making the game less enjoyable as well as the forums.

but i digress, maybe instead of attacking an entire forums reading comprehension you should work on your ability to confidently and clearly express ideas. I know I am not the only one who noticed that your tone and "what you were trying to get across" seemed to "evolve" as the thread went on.