Cartoony style graphics....

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Originally Posted by Shougun

lunch menus

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Maybe in some bizarro hipster Instagram world.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

it's not pointless, why would there be 10 pages already if it were.

Also a lot of people from sargatanas who post on these forums agrees with me on a lot of things.

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9 of the 10 pages are more like "Rokien thread Hooray!" and " Insert Gonzo here" and " Stop making threads Rokien" ... It's pointless alright! :p

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

Maybe in some bizarro hipster Instagram world.

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lol, You havent been to art museums then. It can get wild. (I didnt list it because I think its fun to look at, but because I wanted it to be obvious that he needs to get off his horse on what art is and is not - it does not have to be a painting of deep and meaningful thought, that part is subjective)

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Originally Posted by Shougun

lol, You havent been to art museums then. It can get wild. (I didnt list it because I think its fun to look at, but because I wanted it to be obvious that he needs to get off his horse on what art is and is not - it does not have to be a painting of deep and meaningful thought, that part is subjective)

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Art is subjective.

so it's not art.

Define "Art" ( Don't leave out any details, and don't just say paintngs is art because there's more to it than that).

Art.. is an EXPLOSION!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2Sw7q3IE3w

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Originally Posted by Ingolf

Art is subjective.

so it's not art.

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Amazing you think that SE used no imagination or skill to create the realm. Its quite insulting to SE, and I'm not sure why you are even here if you think that poorly of their work - because I know its not the gameplay that keeps you here.

It is art, and it is good art. You cant just whip up a thousand models and toss them in the same room, there are massive amounts of considerations to make that only one skilled would do correctly.

Again, art is subjective.

So it's not art. Feel free to have a difference in opinion with me, but I will never concede to agree that a game that was developed solely for marketing value is art. If you want to disagree feel free, that's why it's all subjective.

A child uses imagination to draw a picture of a house, I wouldn't call that art either.

Nor would I call a single soup can in a pool of menstrual blood, art. (But that's a whole other thing about modern art)

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Amazing you think that SE used no imagination or skill to create the realm. Its quite insulting to SE, and I'm not sure why you are even here if you think that poorly of their work - because I know its not the gameplay that keeps you here.

It is art, and it is good art. You cant just whip up a thousand models and toss them in the same room, there are massive amounts of considerations to make that only one skilled would do correctly.

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Shougon he doesn't see the game as art. Art is highly subjective. Why do you think for paintings some people like the impressionistic styles and others different styles. Art to each person has to promote an emotional response to people for them to like it. Example some hold things in awe some hold it for it's beauty to their own eyes or the meanings it gives to them. All a pure emotional response. I remember my aunt taking me to the Parthenon in Tennessee where they have a replica (exact size and everything) of the Athena/Nike statue... I looked up at it and it was breath taking to me yet my Aunt broke down and cried because she was afraid of it and had to leave the room. I would love to go see that statue again and marvel at the simplicity and beauty of it and think also of the original one and how it could have even possibly have been made back in Ancient Greece. Remember beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder.

However by cold hard definition you are right. But a lot of people don't think of it that way they have different thought patterns and such.

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Originally Posted by Ingolf

Again, art is subjective.

So it's not art. Feel free to have a difference in opinion with me, but I will never concede to agree that a game that was developed solely for marketing value is art. If you want to disagree feel free, that's why it's all subjective.

A child uses imagination to draw a picture of a house, I wouldn't call that art either.

Nor would I call a single soup can in a puddle made of menstrual blood. (But that's a whole other thing about modern art)

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Its not subjective, read the damn definition - or don't use the word (because you don't understand its meaning). Even if you don't like the art it's still art.

Appreciation of art is subjective, that's it.

Art is anything that requires skill and / or imagination. Math is art.

Art is art, the only subjectivity of art is whether you like it or not or deem it worthy of your collection. People will pay millions for a circle on a canvas just because a popular artist does it, but some would piss on true works of art just because the artist is unknown or a 'ganster' but that doesn't change the fact something is a work of art. This is the problem with the english language though, people clearly use it in different manners.