Stop forcing female clothes on me

not sure what all the raging and arguing is for just admit ya'll are bored af i think its fine for OP to ask for more male-centric centered clothes however he should rephrase his title to the thread nothing is forced upon anyone in the fashion/clothes of this game.. don't like it? don't obtain it then, hate how it looks? then glamour over it then you won't have to look at it. its that simple.

Honestly I think it should've been worded as "I don't want even more frills, floor-length robes, & wedding gown-esque glamours". The use of words such as 'female/male clothing' requires deeper nuance that doesn't exist in the OP & are often misinterpret, thus disrupting discussion.

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Originally Posted by MsQi

Sounds like a confession to me.

If it was unintended maybe you should reconsider how you start your thread. Everything else you said seems to be about other topics. So yes, I find it amusing that even you can't address your original topic. Hard to tell since it was so vague. You are entitled to your opinion but an opinion based on false facts is an invalid opinion. (e.g.: I enjoyed the part where I shot Gaius in the face while he was monologuing.)

You are not being forced and you have options. Define what you mean by "better options". Using male and female in the context of the game, most cases where a female outfit is slapped on a male body is a case of giving an option where there was none or wouldn't be one.

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I replied more than I wanted to on this thread, to be honest. It's no use arguing, cause somebody will tell me pancakes taste better than waffles.
It's not a confession, I was well aware of the consequences of my title + my op. This place is not any different than any other social media. People behave like sharks and chop your head off for liking different things. But not everyone shares the same idea, more options benefit everyone.

My request is pretty simple and took only 1 sentence. I dont need to give examples, as there are plenty ideas already in the thread. The forum management will do just fine picking the right ideas.
Why are you so inclined about telling me what I should be doing, while the thread did it's job?

There are plenty sets designed for female characters, but simply ported onto male bodies. This hasnt only started recently.
I'm playing the game for years. And if people are allowed to request a bunny suit, it's pretty clear anyone can request anything?
So thanks for your tutoring, but I don't need it, really.

The problem isnt clothes being gendered, it's clothes being bad, and the sooner you people figure that out, the sooner you'll stop wasting time running in circles over things that won't actually solve any of your problems. Both female and male clothes for the most part are designed and implemented poorly. And it's not because some agenda is being catered to, or some magical middle ground you think they're trying to meet for whatever sake you think;

It's because their current design team.
Ok? See how easy that was??? When you just stop making up other things to be upset about and instead focus on the direct problem at hand??
It's a design issue-because why do the "large" t-shirts always jet forward like freshly deployed parachutes??? Is it because men and women exist in the same space and not everyone likes restrictions being in place?? Or is it because someone at the company made that ugly stiff garbage bag outfit multiple times, and each and every time it was unanimously pushed through? Do we put on large t-shirts and start paragliding around because of the differences in male and female anatomy compounded by the political landscape-the ramifications of the NCLB act just make me sick.

"I want masculine clothes" gives you nothing because you arent actually saying anything.
Have you seen the producer of this game?? and then you wonder why your male clothes have nail polish and rings-be DIRECT. Explain what exactly it is that you want to see. What is manly? What would be masculine? Post examples. If you want George of the jungle with some upper body showing and a loincloth, then you need to say that.

"Yoshi, i want tightly fitted military attire with combat boots and weaponry around my waist" "I want an actually well tailored suit that doesnt make my back look 5 times bigger" "yoshi, we want old western styled vests, with the undershirt, and a shirt with the western collar around it, and fitted blue jeans with a big belt buckle-" Be SPECIFIC. Feedback isnt "idk i want thing" What thing? Which one? Dont whine about a monkeys paw curling, you weren't specific. because the other fans said; "Yoshi, I want TRIPP pants and a baby-Tee" and guess what we just got 5 times just now? Now, this is the part where you realize that masculinity is highly subjective, and whatever you think is manly will get you immediately laughed at by other men who delusionaly imagine that they are somehow more manly than you, as they too log into their barbie doll cartoon character video game-but that is a cross you must be willing to bear. Say what you want to see or accept the attempts that the uninspired designers are half-heartedly attempting.

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Originally Posted by xbahax92

Why are you so inclined about telling me what I should be doing, while the thread did it's job?

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Well I gave you the benefit of the doubt and you confirm what I said.

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Originally Posted by xbahax92

I replied more than I wanted to on this thread, to be honest. It's no use arguing, cause somebody will tell me pancakes taste better than waffles.
It's not a confession, I was well aware of the consequences of my title + my op. This place is not any different than any other social media. People behave like sharks and chop your head off for liking different things. But not everyone shares the same idea, more options benefit everyone.

My request is pretty simple and took only 1 sentence. I dont need to give examples, as there are plenty ideas already in the thread. The forum management will do just fine picking the right ideas.
Why are you so inclined about telling me what I should be doing, while the thread did it's job?

There are plenty sets designed for female characters, but simply ported onto male bodies. This hasnt only started recently.
I'm playing the game for years. And if people are allowed to request a bunny suit, it's pretty clear anyone can request anything?
So thanks for your tutoring, but I don't need it, really.

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To be fair posts like this are guaranteed to cause conflict because adding more gear of particular style will happen at the cost of gear in different style, so people who enjoy that are going to argue against it.

Like for example if I asked for more armours from PvP series rewards instead of casual/cyberpunk glams (which is something I genuinely want) it’s guaranteed that people who like causal glams are going to argue against that.

We sure could use more generic modern cyberslop glams. I love throwing neon lights on everything and calling it a day. When are we getting LED earrings?

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Originally Posted by AntoniusQuil

To be fair posts like this are guaranteed to cause conflict because adding more gear of particular style will happen at the cost of gear in different style, so people who enjoy that are going to argue against it.

Like for example if I asked for more armours from PvP series rewards instead of casual/cyberpunk glams (which is something I genuinely want) it’s guaranteed that people who like causal glams are going to argue against that.

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You're correct. But it's not my job to define anything. It's not up to me to decide where masculine ends and feminine begins. These are much deeper topics than I want to get in here. It doesn't really have anything to do with the game anymore.
And I get the feeling that some people demand examples and definitions from me just to have counterarguments. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. I can't define this, and no matter what example I give, it's always subjective.

I know what the game devs provide regarding glamour options and designs. So I base myself on that. They will surely know what to do.

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Originally Posted by xbahax92

You're correct. But it's not my job to define anything.

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What do you mean? If you don't define your problem or proposed solution how is anyone supposed to understand them?

Defining what you want would be your one job on a feedback forum wouldn't it?

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Originally Posted by AntoniusQuil

To be fair posts like this are guaranteed to cause conflict because adding more gear of particular style will happen at the cost of gear in different style, so people who enjoy that are going to argue against it.

Like for example if I asked for more armours from PvP series rewards instead of casual/cyberpunk glams (which is something I genuinely want) it’s guaranteed that people who like causal glams are going to argue against that.

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That's true and deeply annoying and unfortunate. I've noticed with western audiences that the concept of "lets pool together ideas!" often doesnt work, because as soon as anyone posts an idea, it immediately gets argued about and then derailed into politics-americans are VERY obsessed with politics which is understandable, but not everything can be everywhere all at once.

I think best you can do is just ignore it. Ignore people posting about their feelings on your ideas, and just put forth the ideas.
That's how things come to fruition anyway. People will yell and scream and make it about themselves, but the people who can solve these problems won't be looking at those arguments.
Their eyes glaze right over all of that.
They will be looking at and forwarding your examples you posted.
They will remember most the images presented, not the walls of text that followed it. I'm going to admit that I say this for very specific reasons that I've personally been involved with myself, but not in relation to this game, but generally most of the time with other online games this is how it works.

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Originally Posted by xbahax92

You're correct. But it's not my job to define anything. It's not up to me to decide where masculine ends and feminine begins. These are much deeper topics than I want to get in here. It doesn't really have anything to do with the game anymore.
And I get the feeling that some people demand examples and definitions from me just to have counterarguments.

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It's no ones job to define that, none of you can.
Nothing is real in that respect. So don't waste time on it.
Focus on the main objective.
"What kind of outfits do I want to see?"
Ask yourself that, and then share them. Encourage them.
It actually is that easy. There's no need to argue, there's nothing to argue about on your end.
Anyone arguing against what you'd like to see in the game might as well argue with you about what you'd like to eat that night too.
The point is to put out there demonstrations of what you personally think should come next. and everyone else is free to post their ideas too.