Ban premade parties in Frontline please

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Originally Posted by Menriq

So using a LP as a premade, that is 1/6 of the team. Not an insignificant amount, but not enough IMO to be able to dominate the other teams alone. To me, a premade would be considered 12 or more, but I could even see a FP being enough to swing the tides in a certain manner.

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During the DRK+ meta, 4-person premades were reporting win-rates of 70% and higher. Indeed some members of such premades would use "33%er" as a derogatory term for solo players.

We're not talking about Billy and Jodie who queue into FL together for a casual game. We're talking about groups who are three or four in a voice chat so they can be highly coordinated, using macros like little tyrants to get everyone to follow their commands, telling everyone else that their DRK is the leader and shouting down anyone in chat who talks back. They don't "just want to play with their friends", that transparently disingenuous defense we've heard for months. All they want is to stomp on people to inflate their own egos and make themselves feel like they're better than everyone else. And you know for certain this is the case because they resist to their fullest the idea that premades should be only matched against premades. They would still get to play with their friends but they wouldn't get to stomp, so it's not an option they allow to breathe.

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Originally Posted by Mawlzy

During the DRK+ meta, 4-person premades were reporting win-rates of 70% and higher. Indeed some members of such premades would use "33%er" as a derogatory term for solo players.

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Still do. Haven’t heard that used as an insult before though.

Also, probably against separating ques cause it wouldn’t pop and you ruin it for the people who are “just playing with friends.”

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Originally Posted by OliviaLugria

Still do. Haven’t heard that used as an insult before though.

Also, probably against separating ques cause it wouldn’t pop and you ruin it for the people who are “just playing with friends.”

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Only on Shatter I hope?

You'd be in favor of custom matches, right?

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Originally Posted by Mawlzy

Only on Shatter I hope?

You'd be in favor of custom matches, right?

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Shatter actually lower recently. You need more people to burst effectively and everyone to busy licking ice. much easier to run seal and onsal.

Custom matches would be hype

Another queue into trash roulette into another time waste against obvious premade.

Not even worth trying to compete for 2nd place, better to get 30 min leaver penalty. I guess this is how SE farms "daily login" numbers.

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Originally Posted by IceEyes

Yes, let's lower the quality of the fights more. Everything already made for hamsters and is as pointless as possible, the best thing to do is make it even more primitive.

You can go even further and prohibit hardcore raiders from joining parties. So the raid will be more har-r-rd CORE!

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You are griefer that likes to abuse broken system, go play other PVP games where you and your friends have more chances to lose.

I'd really like to ban premades that spend the entire match chatting in party chat on topics completely unrelated to the match.

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Originally Posted by Mawlzy

I'd really like to ban premades that spend the entire match chatting in party chat on topics completely unrelated to the match.

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100% agree

I'll never understand people who hate pvp but queue into it. And then spend the whole time complaining or actively being a detriment. Even when you call out behavior, the "lol, its just pvp" crowd pipe up. Then why are you here?? Some of us DO enjoy it and like to actually put effort into it. I can handle losing to better organized opposition. I can't handle being in teams where there is a significant portion not even trying or, worse, actively sabotaging. To me, they are the biggest detriment to FFXIV pvp.

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Originally Posted by Stasya

You are griefer that likes to abuse broken system, go play other PVP games where you and your friends have more chances to lose.

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Didn’t think that would live to see the moment when players would unironically claim that playing in massive PvP events in a party is griefing and abuse of the system...

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Я никогда не пойму людей, которые ненавидят PvP, но встают в очередь.

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Free exp <3

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Originally Posted by IceEyes

Didn’t think that would live to see the moment when players would unironically claim that playing in massive PvP events in a party is griefing and abuse of the system...


Free exp <3

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You are really bold to say that system placing randoms against premades is fair and working at all. Groups should face groups at the very least. You are mocking people here just because you like to stomp, but people like you don't like to be stomped so you are not going to play games with ranked pvp.

Anyway, another dumb person on these forums, I guess you lost your way to general section.

The only solutions to people abusing parties:

Make party face party only, but this will require system to remember people from matches, because afaik abusers just q at same time and system places them in 1 team, so it needs to have some sort of cooldown to not have people party q over and over. = impossible with these devs, also will make queues longer for premade crybabies

Remove frontlines roulette, have people who "pvp with friends but it's all premade groups" just eat dirt and force them to make their premade matches against each other for useless "pvp" rewards (since no one will q frontlines ever). Place CC one match roulette in its place, no xp difference for losing, just more series pvp xp (cause no one cares about it). = possible, but needs devs to work on this game (it took them how long to change translation mistake core-lateral?)