Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

Wuk Lamat is a great character and without saying anything bad about the other expansions, then this one is way better than anything else we got.

Stop creating problems, where there is none and apparently the OP and likewise others did not pay attention to the story as well at all.

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Explain how she is a good character please, plenty here have explained how she is a terribly written one from a pure literary standpoint. So please explain to the class how she is anything but a 2d uwu meme creation by someone who needs to be made redundant?

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

Wuk Lamat is a great character and without saying anything bad about the other expansions, then this one is way better than anything else we got.

Stop creating problems, where there is none and apparently the OP and likewise others did not pay attention to the story as well at all.

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I kind of see your point. In a vacuum I think she isn't bad. However, the way we are written into the story with her is really flawed. I'm not sure if the authors really intended to "Poochie" her but they did it anyways to probably not intended outcomes. I jokingly called G'raha Tia Poochie Tia in the past before during ShB and post ShB content, but Wuk is easily worse. Though G'raha actually did have a time machine.

A good character should have flaws but also redeeming qualities, Puke has none. She would have been fine if she was left as a character you meet for 5m and helps you get a boat to the continent then leaves, but as a main character of an expac she is pure 2D garbage.

In fact I believe she's what haurchefant would have been if he didn't rightly get killed of. A tedious 2d character shoved in your face every 5s

Now I remember who Wuk Lamat reminds me off ... she's basically Widargelt 2.0, someone who can't do anything without a constant injection of positive reinforcement. Heck, I won't be surprise if it's the same writer behind both of them, the similarity is ... uncanny. Widargelt is one of the main reasons why I don't miss job quest.

Wuk Lamat probably will be developed into something decent, that's almost certain, but I don't think the bad taste will ever leave my tongue. First impression is important, because you only get it one. You don't have to start a character at the bottom to have room for growth and development. Or maybe the writer know Wuk Lamat is an average character so they have to start her at the bottom and the only way to go is up.

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Originally Posted by Malthir

Explain how she is a good character please, plenty here have explained how she is a terribly written one from a pure literary standpoint. So please explain to the class how she is anything but a 2d uwu meme creation by someone who needs to be made redundant?

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Pretty much everything, is good, I don't need to go into details, maybe you don't like it, but most of all you are either stubborn, a troll, or simply rushed to 100 skipping every little bit of the game, my take is that is not exactly American or close to British English that is your problem... which I am happy for that they went in directions of giving her and others a heavy accent, which has been seriously needed.


Stop claiming that you actually took part in the story, because it is clear, that you did not.

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Also you must be an elderly person, who is extreme conservative, it shows, I am in my 40s as well, and I like the approach and different ways we get, I like and love change.
And if not Elderly, extreme conservative youth, that need to open the eyes to the world, be it isolated too much in own country or not, there is a whole new world out there for you to explore.

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

Wuk Lamat is a great character and without saying anything bad about the other expansions, then this one is way better than anything else we got.

Stop creating problems, where there is none and apparently the OP and likewise others did not pay attention to the story as well at all.


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Also most persons here has something against everything if it is not a male who is in charge of stuff, it is kind of pathetic.

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Yeah, stop creating problems by giving your opinions folks! All you sexists just need to read the story! Maybe then you can appreciate how one naive catgirl goes from being stupid and liking peace to... Being slightly less stupid and liking peace. This is the riveting character development we've all been waiting for!

I'm toward the end of the MSQ and her "development" is as basic and boring as you can get. I like Dawntrail overall, but Wuk Lamat is a blackhole that actively destroys any interesting writing and turns all the other characters into infantilized mouthpieces that spout platitudes like "friends are important" and "everyone is special" and "peace is good" around. I dislike her as a character, but I really hate her for her affect on the overall story and characters.

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

Pretty much everything, is good, I don't need to go into details, maybe you don't like it, but most of all you are either stubborn, a troll, or simply rushed to 100 skipping every little bit of the game, my take is that is not exactly American or close to British English that is your problem... which I am happy for that they went in directions of giving her and others a heavy accent, which has been seriously needed.


Stop claiming that you actually took part in the story, because it is clear, that you did not.

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First of all I tried I skipped nothing in the crappy first zone but had to close the game take a break and retry to push through, twice. From that point on yeah I am just zoning out on the story until she becomes less relevant, by some miracle is a completely different character or dies. Pretty much everything is not an example of something being well written. She has no redeeming qualities. Not rushing through still only level 92, in the second zone. Also I resent your implication that I dislike her cause of her accent, I've not mentioned that once, in fact I'm probably one of the few that doesn't have an issue with the VA, it's not amazing but I don't think it's the problem with the character, a VA can't do jack if the writing was done by someone in highschool.

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Originally Posted by Malthir

First of all I tried I skipped nothing in the crappy first zone but had to close the game take a break and retry to push through, twice. From that point on yeah I am just zoning out on the story until she becomes less relevant, by some miracle is a completely different character or dies. Pretty much everything is not an example of something being well written. She has no redeeming qualities. Not rushing through still only level 92, in the second zone. Also I resent your implication that I dislike her cause of her accent, I've not mentioned that once, in fact I'm probably one of the few that doesn't have an issue with the VA, it's not amazing but I don't think it's the problem with the character, a VA can't do jack if the writing was done by someone in highschool.

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Then your claims is false and irrelevant.

The elderly 40 year old with many posts has spoken, FFXIV is saved.

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

Then your claims is false and irrelevant.

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What?
That response didn't even make sense, what claims are false. That she's a 2D poorly written background NPC that's been pushed to the front of the plot?

She has no depth, her entire story to this point is, I want to lead my people because I do. She impulsive, ignorant of the world around her, insecure, again basically written as a cliché of a teenager.
I asked you to name a single redeeming character trait that she has and you couldn't