Just remove leveling altogether if it's such a hindrance.

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Originally Posted by Grimwald

Because this game will never be FFXI-2, and you have to accept it. I'm sorry.

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Such a shame too because that game would probably be a success.

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Removing experience points isn't something an Eastern MMORPG has ever accomplished before, and quite frankly, they are afraid to do it. The majority of players who are complaining for features like weapon skill points are looking through incredibly foggy nostalgia goggles. I'm sure you agree with me that more grinding doesn't equate to fun. The current EXP system is a short, yet sweet experience if you played when EXP parties actually existed, and it wasn't boring Leve grinding.

I'm sorry, although SE is a company that is slowly moving towards listening to their customers, that doesn't mean everything you want will be included, or asking them to rework the entire class system - especially when their game is currently in a position where it could potentially flop again. No amount of deadpan arguing or trying to sound smart on a forum is going to change that.

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You still refuse to answer why liking content that you don't makes us masochistic. ANSWER IT or apologize for the ad-hominem and shut up, it's that simple.

And again, there is no illegitimacy about what we've brought up any more than what anyone else has made a thread about that the devs have pulled suggestions from. People yelled about wanting jumping, and they got it, we have the same rights just as much to talk about the EXP curve. If you trust the devs so much, leave it up to them to decide what they want and leave the rest of us in peace. (That's the real problem with people like you - when you absolutely want something, you demand the devs implement it, and when yet you don't want something, you tell others to shut up about it because the devs aren't going to do anything about it.)

P.S. Enough with the "I'm sorry" crap since you don't even mean it to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Zezlar

Such a shame too because that game would probably be a success.

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No, it wouldn't. At least not with the perception it has had. I'm not here to ask for FFXI-2 even though I'd rather just play FFXI pre-Abyssea with some minor updated graphics and a few other small tweaks; I'm here to discuss FFXIV.

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You still refuse to answer why liking content that you don't makes us masochistic. ANSWER IT or apologize for the ad-hominem and shut up, it's that simple.

And again, there is no illegitimacy about what we've brought up any more than what anyone else has made a thread about that the devs have pulled suggestions from. People yelled about wanting jumping, and they got it, we have the same rights just as much to talk about the EXP curve.

P.S. Enough with the "I'm sorry" crap since you don't even mean it to begin with.



No, it wouldn't. At least not with the perception it has had. I'm not here to ask for FFXI-2 even though I'd rather just play FFXI pre-Abyssea with some minor updated graphics and a few other small tweaks; I'm here to discuss FFXIV.

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I did answer, but you're apparently so hell bent on getting what you want, you probably didn't even read what I said.

I'll make it easy for you; More grinding doesn't mean more fun. The current leveling experience is great. There is more content that is going to be added, and the level cap will raise.

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I did answer, but you're apparently so hell bent on getting what you want, you probably didn't even read what I said.

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No, you didn't. I'll explain again. You said we're masochists for liking something you don't, that is the leveling experience.

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I'll make it easy for you: More grinding doesn't mean more fun.

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It is YOUR OPINION that more grinding isn't fun. That is NOT the opinion I and others like me share. My opinion is that grinding is fun, because it is fun to me. Notice that I am referring to the fact it is MY opinion, whereas you go all the way to say that those like myself must somehow be masochists for enjoying a longer grind, ergo it is your belief that you're trying to make into a fact that we're somehow wrong for liking content that you don't.

Your tears of rage are delicious... please cry more for my entertainment. (It serves as extra salt for my popcorn as well)

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No, you didn't. I'll explain again. You said we're masochists for liking something you don't, that is the leveling experience.



It is YOUR OPINION that more grinding isn't fun. That is NOT the opinion I and others like me share. My opinion is that grinding is fun, because it is fun to me. Notice that I am referring to the fact it is MY opinion, whereas you go all the way to say that those like myself must somehow be masochists for enjoying a longer grind, ergo it is your belief that you're trying to make into a fact that we're somehow wrong for liking content that you don't.

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You are fairly confident that doing away with the experience system is what everyone wants. Is all this anger just over the one interview Yoshi did claiming that "level 50 would not be hard to reach"?

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You are fairly confident that doing away with the experience system is what everyone wants. Is all this anger just over the one interview Yoshi did claiming that "level 50 would not be hard to reach"?

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Again you continue to sidestep the question. Never mind that you're now putting words into my mouth; I never once claimed anything is what everyone wants.

I'll ask you one more time: why do you think I am a masochist for enjoying content that you don't?

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Again you continue to sidestep the question. Never mind that you're now putting words into my mouth; I never once claimed anything is what everyone wants.

I'll ask you one more time: why do you think I am a masochist for enjoying content that you don't?

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I'm sure you agree with me that more grinding doesn't equate to fun. The current EXP system is a short, yet sweet experience if you played when EXP parties actually existed, and it wasn't boring Leve grinding.

I'm sorry, although SE is a company that is slowly moving towards listening to their customers, that doesn't mean everything you want will be included, or asking them to rework the entire class system - especially when their game is currently in a position where it could potentially flop again. No amount of deadpan arguing or trying to sound smart on a forum is going to change that.

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*Continues to hold her bag of popcorn under your chin collecting the salt for her popcorn*

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*Continues to hold her bag of popcorn under your chin collecting the salt for her popcorn*

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You can refuse to read all you want, I don't care.

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Again you continue to sidestep the question. Never mind that you're now putting words into my mouth; I never once claimed anything is what everyone wants.

I'll ask you one more time: why do you think I am a masochist for enjoying content that you don't?

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I've already answered this question, and you've refused my answer. Just because I didn't say "you're masochistic because..." does not mean I've side stepped your question.