why the crystal tower raids are still part of the roulette?

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Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi

This was done *in* Dynamis, I am on Marilith myself, and I was doing Atma farm(12x9 is a goddamn grind...) so I figured I could afford to wait the que and decided to not hop over, the run was fairly rough too, we got dangerously close to wiping on Behemoth, including no Tank picking up the armor mob and leading to it breaking the rock I was hiding behind about half a second before meteor snapshot, which sure is... interesting to see happen.

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We did wipe on behemoth on my alt's clear. I was MT. OTs were apparently both out in Narnia. By the time I could get a second to notice and start trying to get the giant under control and deal with the boss it had deleted the rock most people were hiding behind. We got it the second time since I saw I was going to have to grab big guy myself. Pretty sure they were trolling a bit. Provoking from behind so bosses turned and when I dialed it back to let them have it (I'm not about to get dragged into a provoke war) they'd let it come back to me, then voke again. So unfortunately even Dynamis isn't immune to people who troll CT.

I only have CT so far on my alt. Just got into SB and was working on Alex before Void Ark while doing MSQ around it. Takes a bit to get into specific Alex instances even with all three roles at my disposal. I would imagine there are a fair number on Dynamis still who only have CT or aren't high enough yet for anything else.

When I am only collecting tomestones, then I am happy about CT.

But in every other case I am happy when something else pops. Especially about Nier raids, because they feel more like an alliance should feel, and they have interesting glamour. : )

I got Nier 2-3 more times than CT this week and that's not counting the Ivalice raids (leveling jobs at lvl 80-90 atm). Abandoned Nier 3 every time because it is too bright.

it just is what it is. The raids have item level requirements for a reason and if it forced people in 90 gear to do endwalker raids they wouldn't really be able to function. I would have to assume not everyone queuing is cheating the system and every level 50 person doing it needs to drag along 23 more people since I do get other raids at least a couple times a week

crystal tower are alliance raids. A more reasonable thing to do is add more roulettes like dungeons have so there is more incentive to do various tiers of them

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

Ah but the CHEATERS who CHEAT for braindead easy roulett do get it, yes?

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Lmao I know I got st yesterday those cheaters lol

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

Furthermore, they do need to rework the scaling with these ARR raids, after all the changes we've had, they're simply wet noodles. Furthermore, they really need to look into resistance weapons relics. These are by far the most abysmally designed relic series we've had thus far, in this regard. Attach loathsome memories to the roulette itself as opposed to a particular series of alliance raids, e.g., Crystal Tower (Which they are) - This just exacerbates the issue, and quite significantly.

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I have alts, which will never unlock anything but the CT raid series, because MSQ.

There are new players who are not interested in running old raids (and possibly not even the new ones). And aside from glamours, why should they ever unlock them?

If any of these characters run the roulette, they will never get anything but the CT series.


The only way to make it reasonable is to up the difficulty of CT to be on par with 3.x/4.x, but that is something the devs have said they’d rather not do, as CT could very well be a player’s first time to EVER play with actually other humans in party. It is meant to be baby’s first raid.

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Originally Posted by kaynide

I have alts, which will never unlock anything but the CT raid series, because MSQ.

There are new players who are not interested in running old raids (and possibly not even the new ones). And aside from glamours, why should they ever unlock them?

If any of these characters run the roulette, they will never get anything but the CT series.


The only way to make it reasonable is to up the difficulty of CT to be on par with 3.x/4.x, but that is something the devs have said they’d rather not do, as CT could very well be a player’s first time to EVER play with actually other humans in party. It is meant to be baby’s first raid.

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With all due respect, players shouldn't be disproportionately placed in a particular series of raids in the roulette either, purely because they elected to take, what is quite possibly the most poorly executed decision-making that they've done in a long, long time. Let me posit the other question to you -- Why should people be consistently nigh on placed in the same instance, or a subset of instances time, and time again, and all because SE thought it was a glorious decision to overextend the amount of content tied to the Crystal Tower? Yes, it takes 1 person to force 23 other people into a particular instance, and this becomes a problem when said instances have too much content tied to them.

Your first two opening statements already highlight why it is a very clear issue, and why said decisions were abysmal. One is designed so that it is a requisite for the MSQ, and well the latter part of your statement infers that people do not want to do them, and have only done so on the basis that it is a requirement for the story. [Edit: When it comes to something such as the alliance raids, players should be encouraged to participate across them all, equally.]

There is no universe where their current situation is good wrt alliance raids.

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

With all due respect, players shouldn't be disproportionately placed in a particular series of raids in the roulette either, purely because they elected to take, what is quite possibly the most poorly executed decision-making that they've done in a long, long time. Let me posit the other question to you -- Why should people be consistently nigh on placed in the same instance, or a subset of instances time, and time again, and all because SE thought it was a glorious decision to overextend the amount of content tied to the Crystal Tower? Yes, it takes 1 person to force 23 other people into a particular instance, and this becomes a problem when said instances have too much content tied to them.

Your first two opening statements already highlight why it is a very clear issue, and why said decisions were abysmal. One is designed so that it is a requisite for the MSQ, and well the latter part of your statement infers that people do not want to do them, and have only done so on the basis that it is a requirement for the story.

There is no universe where their current situation is good wrt alliance raids.

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Tbf, there's no promise or guarantee when you enter a roulette that you will be provided an even spread of content to run. You deal with the content you're given, and are rewarded for doing so.

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Originally Posted by Iyrnthota

Tbf, there's no promise or guarantee when you enter a roulette that you will be provided an even spread of content to run. You deal with the content you're given, and are rewarded for doing so.

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Yes, you do, and my solution to that is to simply not participate in the roulette in any capacity - I won't even be found doing alliance raid roulette even when the level cap is increased.

This point, however, does not detract from the seriously poor decision-making they've done.

its an Alliance raid set, so it has to stay period does this need to keep going, or does some people have some braincells and just end this pointless debate.

just make the other alliance raids required for msq parts and there you go proplem solved, make a reader for ilvl so people cant lazy the way out proplem fixed. Now can we all stop being stupid?