Current Problem Parallels

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

Japan is the home of Sumo Wrestlers, being large carriaged in Japan is actually socially acceptable in their culture and has been for centuries.

Nice try though, but you can't apply American standards to Japanese culture and societal beliefs. That's called being ignorant.

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Originally Posted by Adamantini

Yes, it's true that there would be no proof, but to say that she wouldn't get at least a few followers is also to deny that nowadays there are people who believe everything they read on the internet.
She had a tracker in Meteion, so I believe in the power of the ancestors to see an iota of sense in what she was saying. If not most, some.
The problem here is that Hermes had already been defeated in combat by us, he was at a disadvantage, and Venat could have called in more dogs and gotten everyone out of there before the wipe. Hyth had a bow, but preferred to wait for Hermes to configure the memory shift system. This story could have ended in Elpis.

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No...not true. You don't need proof when the Echo exists, everyone there has the ability to utilize it and this scene happens very shortly before we enter Ktsis Hyperboreia.

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Using "well no one would believe her!" as an excuse doesn't hold up. Especially when the writers themselves show us how easy it is for them to see the truth for themselves.

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Originally Posted by BrokentoothMarch

I like how you're using stereotypical "smart" insults to pretend you're intelligent after making a very dangerously ignorant remark on the Japanese.

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Literally have Sumo as a huge part of their culture, people that are celebrated as major celebrities and heroes.

Has been cases where a Yokozuna had to stand down for bringing great shame to the Sumo.

"But they hate fate people", sure. Let's go with the Americans take on what is clear as daylight for anyone that has spent more than a flight of fancy in Japanese historical culture.

If you're referring to the way China treats overweight people, which is very poorly, a country known for the barbaric act of foot binding

We have a word for that

It starts with R and ends in T.

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Originally Posted by PawPaw

No...not true. You don't need proof when the Echo exists, everyone there has the ability to utilize it and this scene happens very shortly before we enter Ktsis Hyperboreia.
Using "well no one would believe her!" as an excuse doesn't hold up. Especially when the writers themselves show us how easy it is for them to see the truth for themselves.

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I believe what he meant is that even with facts some people don't want to see it, and I agree with that. Emet Selch, in all his wisdom and power, prefers to act like a grumpy child when we present facts that we came from the future.

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

Literally have Sumo as a huge part of their culture, people that are celebrated as major celebrities and heroes.

Has been cases where a Yokozuna had to stand down for bringing great shame to the Sumo.

"But they hate fate people", sure. Let's go with the Americans take on what is clear as daylight for anyone that has spent more than a flight of fancy in Japanese historical culture.

If you're referring to the way China treats overweight people, which is very poorly, a country known for the barbaric act of foot binding

We have a word for that

It starts with R and ends in T.

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I just have no words. You're pretending to be an expert on a country based on something actually niche in that country. Sumo's are not that big a thing, simply something that was exported at the earliest to the rest of the world. By your logic, everyone would be in the right to think America is still wahoo cowboys herding sheep and shooting natives in 2022. You're an actual lunatic and dangerously close to that thing that you're accusing me of.

In fact, I'll say it: You're pretty dangerously racist assuming an entire people's outlook on something based on their niche media. That is IMMENSELY messed up and I would hope you did the last October event because that clown makeup would suit you great right about now.

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

6. Catering to a loud minority of the playerbase. Ion was right about one thing, they were making changes and putting in systems that people wanted. What he failed to say is it was for a very small minority of hardcore raiders that did not care what impact those changes had on the majority playerbase which at the time were Midcore casual. Yoshida does make changes.....but for the larger demographic of the playerbase, the hardcore raiders might not enjoy those changes, but they are the loud minority and we've already seen what changing a game on their whims does, so would rather not go down that road again.

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Considering the first thing they started cutting from were dungeon and the last thing they started cutting from were raids, I'd say it isn't that different.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

What does Amber Heard have to do with Final Fantasy XIV?

As an aside, this wild ride is an excellent example as to why I don't bother taking the considerable time and effort to find sources these days. It's a common tactic for some of the same people demanding a source to move the goalposts only to then resort to dubious insults and bizarre accusations.

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Hit piece site that uses Google translate with writers that do not have an "about me" is not credible.

It's as Credible as Ms Heards "evidence" and the Sumo thing is because Japanese culture raises large framed modern Samurai to celebrity status which contradicts the claim they "hate fat people"

So sorry, I want credible sources, not copy paste Google translate. That's why I brought up Amber Heard because that's the kind of stuff that's being pulled.

A paper thin poorly translated and weakly sourced line versus an entire historical culture that argues opposite.

Surely this guy is a troll, there's no way

You are always arguing from both a meta perspective and an in-lore perspective. Choose one.

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Yeah, that everyone know. But the real question here is "How"? If she had the power to subdue a god, why didn't she do something to defend her people?

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Creation magic, hydaelyn was very specifically created to subdue. Zodiark was never intended to fight. Hydaelyn never had to keep the aether shroud active, that's a lot less power needed.

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If Meteion functions as a "single mind", having one off the grid is a plot hole.

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Meteion doesnt function as a single mind, there is a shared consciousness she can connect to.

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So why it's in the main quest?

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Because main story and side story happen in the same universe? What kind of dumb question is that, why wouldnt it be. Do you have the same grievance with the end of MSQ cutscenes in each expansion referencing the raid quest series?

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It's the end of a story. It cannot have "I think" "my interpretation". It's over, we were supposed to be sure

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But then you ask me about my interpretation anyway, so idk about that one chief, usually not everyone needs every thought spoonfed to them.

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I don't care about bad stories. If they wanted to make a drama, do it the first time we arrived in Sharlayan, not after we were in a hurry to save the world.

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But it's a very uplifting point in the story, giving your group the strength to weather to coming storm. It absolutely fits as encouraging send off to save the world. Urianger wasnt ready for it yet and Moenbryda's parents were also occupied. Again something you'd know if you had paid attention.

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For real? I don't trust a bunch of teddy bears that say they terraformed the moon. Put someone charismatic but less silly and I'll take it seriously.

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Well you can see they terraformed the moon so you dont have to just take their word for it.

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Originally Posted by Adamantini

This.
Not only that. It was supposed to end the story, and what I see most in LL, are questions about Hydaelin, Zoldiark, Emet... But the story is already over, why are there still so many doubts?

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Me answering your questions can only speak about how much attention you have cared to pay to the story, it cannot speak to how good or bad the story is. There are only tons of doubts if you dont care about the story and therefore dont pay attention. Something you seem rather open about, atleast you're honest about that.