What’s the point of Physick for Summoner?

Well you see the reason why it's here is simple. Arcanist, Yep. They will never remove it until smn and sch finally be seperated.

I believe the last time this was ever brought up by the devs in a PLL asking the same question. This was the response; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG5YxbKmbLI

NOW. This was back in Stormblood, and we can easily see what he's said concerning roles and balancing may create carbon copies, and what we see today in adjustments.

I'm not sure if he's gone on record to reiterate on this, but I think this is set as precedent that while Physick remains on SMN like a meme. They don't want to touch it.

And the thing to consider is Physick is an Arcanist spell that can't be ditched. When we sync down, both as SMN and SCH to < 30 lvl content, we retain the Arcanist Physick spell. SCH needs Physick to heal lower content. I can only see a future rework of SCH that takes it off Arcanist for good and becomes an individual job that starts at 30.

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Originally Posted by Kulve

I believe the last time this was ever brought up by the devs in a PLL asking the same question. This was the response; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG5YxbKmbLI

NOW. This was back in Stormblood, and we can easily see what he's said concerning roles and balancing may create carbon copies, and what we see today in adjustments.

I'm not sure if he's gone on record to reiterate on this, but I think this is set as precedent that while Physick remains on SMN like a meme. They don't want to touch it.

And the thing to consider is Physick is an Arcanist spell that can't be ditched. When we sync down, both as SMN and SCH to < 30 lvl content, we retain the Arcanist Physick spell. SCH needs Physick to heal lower content. I can only see a future rework of SCH that takes it off Arcanist for good and becomes an individual job that starts at 30.

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Please can we start it at 1 instead, enough of having only 1 healer to choose for the entire start of the game, let’s stop endlessly funnelling people into WHM

I’d prefer it if they drew summoner and scholar back together, returning shadowflare, bane, fester, miasma, pet management to them and instead evolving physick(smn) into a slightly inferior ruin on living targets but slightly superior on undead. Not by much, just 20 potency or something. Enough that it would be a niche skill a combat oriented arcanist could feasibly have without being broken.

Honestly they should permanently remove Physick from the kit, and replace it with a really useful spell, tired of having healing/hot spells on a dps jobs that overheal 99.9% of the time,
the summoner does not need it, the healers too, especially since they can heal an entire group of 1% hp -> 100% in 2s and they dps 99.9% of the time because all the fights on ff14 have scripted dealing damage phases.

on top of that they count healing effects as utility, so they reduce our dps in return.

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Originally Posted by fulminating

I’d prefer it if they drew summoner and scholar back together, returning shadowflare, bane, fester, miasma, pet management to them and instead evolving physick(smn) into a slightly inferior ruin on living targets but slightly superior on undead. Not by much, just 20 potency or something. Enough that it would be a niche skill a combat oriented arcanist could feasibly have without being broken.

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I still to this day have no idea how square managed to ruin 2 perfectly good classes that came from the same origin yes did different things and both were so fun to play

Now we have overheal healer and 2 buttons is two too many DPS

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

I still to this day have no idea how square managed to ruin 2 perfectly good classes that came from the same origin yes did different things and both were so fun to play

Now we have overheal healer and 2 buttons is two too many DPS

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the objective is to make the job more accessible, they made it so accessible that now you just have to press the same button, it's sad that they take out all the positive aspects of a job, to make it just only visual, the summoner and the scholar have just been the ugly ducklings of the devs since their existence, and there they lobotomize all the jobs little by little, extension by extension they remove useful spells for the benefit of those who are insipid.

am im the only one that still find it funny that they where going to get rid of raise and not physick when they did the smn rework

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Originally Posted by Kulve

I believe the last time this was ever brought up by the devs in a PLL asking the same question. This was the response; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG5YxbKmbLI

NOW. This was back in Stormblood, and we can easily see what he's said concerning roles and balancing may create carbon copies, and what we see today in adjustments.

I'm not sure if he's gone on record to reiterate on this, but I think this is set as precedent that while Physick remains on SMN like a meme. They don't want to touch it.

And the thing to consider is Physick is an Arcanist spell that can't be ditched. When we sync down, both as SMN and SCH to < 30 lvl content, we retain the Arcanist Physick spell. SCH needs Physick to heal lower content. I can only see a future rework of SCH that takes it off Arcanist for good and becomes an individual job that starts at 30.

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Resurrection is the only spell that ACN and SCH share anymore. SCH has its own version of Physick. Just get rid of it, it can absolutely be ditched, the same way Resurrection will be turned into a SCH spell when they get rid of it on SMN in 7.0. Though knowing these devs, I wouldn't be surprised if 7.0 SCH launches without Resurrection at all because they'll forget it's still an ACN spell SCH has when they remove it.

Really ought to just get rid of SMN Physick or change it to actually scale off int. Why go out of their way to reassure players that it's staying in EW if it's still functionally useless lmao.