Getting a New House Feels Impossible

I know this topic must've already been talked over since forever but I don't get why there still hasn't been any change to the System yet. I personally can't possibly hate the Random/Luck Factor for Plebs that don't own a Plot yet more than I already do. This whole system is absolutely unbalanced, which Square Enix is most likely aware of.

In my opinion it would be a much more favorable system if there was just some sort of waiting list concept.
A waiting list, in which you sign up for. Be it -any- plo when you don't have a house at all or specific districts/plots for relocating. I also think Relocating shouldn't have any advantages, a Plot is still a luxury in game in my opinion. It would probably even be the best to just distinguish FC Wards and Private Wards.
Of course that's not nearly realistic at all, at least not now, but that'd give everyone a fair chance to get a housing plot without being forced to camp Placards for hours only to have it stolen by Relocation or just damn luck when the timer runs out and someone else buys it. That'd also reduce this form of harassment to a minimum.

Now I obviously have no programming experience, but I think at least the Waiting list part should be easy enough to implement.

This past weekend there was one plot open because an FC member transferred to another server. The plot was camped almost immediately (the first one open in a week), then someone relocated. Myself and the 10-15 other people moved to that plot, which was relocated to. This happened three times, with all of us chasing the one open plot from which someone had moved...sometimes the relocation was quick other times it was after we had been at the new place for several hours; then we would get to start all over again at that plot...it was insane. Eventually I gave up, but when I left I know there were at least 15 people at that plot that had not opened up for purchase all night.

Does the hidden timer start all over when you have to go to another plot due to relocation? No one seemed to know.

I want a house as do the other 15 people who were chasing plots with me. There simply has to be a better way. I know everyone dumps on the lottery suggestion and I doubt anything will be done, especially considering the track record of fixing housing, but holy moly SE, please do something to give players relief. Yoshi P and the dev team have made a game we thoroughly enjoy. All but this one area is really bad and one that many players would want to get to participate in. I know there have been raids and the like bandied about as comparisons and people get upset that one should not expect to be able to participate in everything and to an extent I agree. If I'm not going to put forth the effort to gear up, then no I should not go on raids, but I know raiders who are not omni-crafters and I am...should I get a house and they shouldn't since I can craft most of the things I'd want to put in it? Of course not...however, this is content that the only pre-requisite is the gil to make the purchase so it should be for everyone who wants to participate, and right now it's not. Being able to decorate my own house is my raid. it's not for everyone, but obviously it is for quite a few people.

Those of us trying to get a house just want a reasonable chance to get our foot in the door without this insanity you seem to find as a reasonable solution to the problem on NA Datacenters. As far as making it a huge gil sink, I don't think at this point they should change prices. Why punish people just getting into the market? I know several who could not afford it if they were to make small houses 10 million gil or more. Many have already gotten their homes at the lesser prices and I', not sure a gil sink at this point will really matter much. It seems as though the ship has sailed on resolving the in game economy.

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Originally Posted by Qinari

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Each new free plot has its own hidden timer, it doesn't mean anything how long the players already waited on another plot. If someone relocates they waited for nothing and timer for the plot that is now free starts from zero.

If plots and house where really meant as Endgame Luxury (which they arent) i wouldnt have an issue paying 50m, 100m or even more for a small plot. But than i would expect in return that there would be no auto demo and my house and plot is still even if i take a break for a year or stuff like that.

With the current limited resources/plots current prices are way to cheap, even new players can save up enough money to afford a plot before they even reach the max lvl. Given how easy it is to make money in this game plot should generally be more expensiv, they should be some kind of Endgame content you need to work towards and takes a bit of time and effort like other stuff (raid gear for example). This may sound a bit arrogant but you shouldnt be able to get a plot as a fresh lvl 80 char, if you want the best gear you need to work for it and same should go for houses and plots.

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Originally Posted by Missbone

Each new free plot has its own hidden timer, it doesn't mean anything how long the players already waited on another plot. If someone relocates they waited for nothing and timer for the plot that is now free starts from zero.

If plots and house where really meant as Endgame Luxury (which they arent) i wouldnt have an issue paying 50m, 100m or even more for a small plot. But than i would expect in return that there would be no auto demo and my house and plot is still even if i take a break for a year or stuff like that.

With the current limited resources/plots current prices are way to cheap, even new players can save up enough money to afford a plot before they even reach the max lvl. Given how easy it is to make money in this game plot should generally be more expensiv, they should be some kind of Endgame content you need to work towards and takes a bit of time and effort like other stuff (raid gear for example). This may sound a bit arrogant but you shouldnt be able to get a plot as a fresh lvl 80 char, if you want the best gear you need to work for it and same should go for houses and plots.

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You're forgetting whale culture and RMT. You could make a small house 100m but someone with enough vanity and cash will just buy it and keep it as a prize.

Raising prices adding a lottery system will just shift the complaints. I think the vision between the devs and players differs greatly here. I do not think it was ever their intent for housing to be widely available, that is what apartments are for.

I can see the point with the RMT and Whale stuff, but i think even with it would lead to less people wanting a house than now. But of course thats just a thought, it would also require that you can only get 1 Personal and FC house per server and that all plots would be free when this changes would take place and that of course will not happen.^^

I suspected as much on the timer. Thanks for the confirmation.

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Originally Posted by Missbone

I can see the point with the RMT and Whale stuff, but i think even with it would lead to less people wanting a house than now. But of course thats just a thought, it would also require that you can only get 1 Personal and FC house per server and that all plots would be free when this changes would take place and that of course will not happen.^^

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A handful of greedy people should not be the cause to punish the actual hundreds of thousands. Escalation is not the key, just a better system. What that system is, people ague about for days. But escalation and culling interest is like devs shooting the playerbase in the heart and themselves in the foot.

I'm sure I'm going to catch heat for this but I'm genuinely curious what all the hype is for housing. Is it like a symbol of wealth and status? Is it just something to do when there is nothing else?

I get it 100% from an FC stand point due to its utility but from a personal stand point? I spent my last 2 weeks camping houses like everyone else. I wanted it bad just because everyone else did and I'm competitive by nature. After having spent maybe half a day playing around with it I dont really see the excitement or appeal. Yes it's cool and slightly beneficial from a convenience stand point but unless you are hardcore into custom decorating it seems over hyped.

What am I missing?

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Originally Posted by SuperSxyNerd

I'm sure I'm going to catch heat for this but I'm genuinely curious what all the hype is for housing. Is it like a symbol of wealth and status? Is it just something to do when there is nothing else?

I get it 100% from an FC stand point due to its utility but from a personal stand point? I spent my last 2 weeks camping houses like everyone else. I wanted it bad just because everyone else did and I'm competitive by nature. After having spent maybe half a day playing around with it I dont really see the excitement or appeal. Yes it's cool and slightly beneficial from a convenience stand point but unless you are hardcore into custom decorating it seems over hyped.

What am I missing?

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Where did you find a house on Gilgamesh?