Thank you for the man-bunnies

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Originally Posted by Chasely

Yaoi is written primarily by women for women. It's full of beautiful men and often has explicit sexual scenes. Bara is designed mostly by men for men. Those tend to have less explicit scenes and more masculine men in extremely tight clothing.

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I'm not really sure yaoi and fujoshi make up a decent percentage of women anime/manga fans. I think they are visible a lot because anime makes them the stock female otaku or a type of them, but if you have read or watched that genre of anime, there's no way in hell most women would like it, if just for the disturbing control issues and male harm. Like the anime Loveless is probably the closest i can think of to an anime that mainstreams those tropes, and its a good illustration why that genre is nowhere as big as shoujo. IDK though, I haven't talked to or seen many actual fujoshi in the west I guess.

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Originally Posted by RiyahArp

the anime Loveless is probably the closest i can think of to an anime that mainstreams those tropes,

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Okay, first, Loveless is not Yaoi, BL or Shonen-ai genre, it's Josei (adult female). It runs in a magazine notable for serializing BOTH Josei and Seinen (adult male) genre series, which may contain both BL and GL as themes, (and, incidentally, the most explicit 'couple' in Loveless to date is actually F/F), but its primary focus is adult and often dark themes. It's an understandable mistake to make: many people know Loveless only through the anime, which was a shallow, fanservicey cash-in that only covers the first four of thirteen and ongoingvolumes and ends right around the point the plot of the manga actually starts. The manga, on the other hand, is a surprisingly deep and respectful exploration of how people are affected by and deal with abuse.


Second, your comparison doesn't really work, given that your references are the Shoujo and Ecchi genres, which are intended for different age groups (young teen-ish girls versus young adult men. A fine line, but a year or two makes a big difference at that age). There are definitely non-yaoi lewd manga for adult women out there, they just tend not to get much public attention due to people(men) tending to prefer the illusion that Women Don't Like The Lewds. A more apt comparison would be Romance-genre fiction, which similarly gets very little attention (barring the occasional fluke like 50 Shades) despite being a billion-dollar industry which commands about a 34% share of the English fiction market. And if you've never read an English romance novel, they can get to be quite lewd, and in many cases hit all the same tropes as your average yaoi manga will, including the control/consent issues.

Bottom line: Women and men aren't any different when it comes to lewd content. The idea that slight biological differences make us averse to fanservice is ridiculous. There are lots of men who don't like cheesecake or beefcake, just like there are lots of women who love both. People are more nuanced than that.

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Originally Posted by Chalbee

https://media1.tenor.com/images/ef5c...temid=10875831

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I STAN THIS SO HARD LMAO

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

In 2013 the data of gamers by gender was 52% male and 48% Female.

In 2017 to 2018 current data shows the balance of Male to Female Video gamers is constantly changing between 50% - 60% on Male and 40% - 50% Female Gamer side.

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Mmm still don’t believe that. Mabye for gaming in general but for ff14? That seems off. ....although, our fc is running about 60/40. Meh whatevs.

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Originally Posted by Mokkabron

Im still worried about when are they going to add clothes with bulges

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....why? It’s a video game....

I am very happy for this.

https://i.imgur.com/NR2PTIb.png

There shouldn't be any reason why a character couldn't wear certain gear. More options are always better. Make manly gear for both genders and feminine gear for both genders.

I'm disappointed. Since this pants don't transparent on webs...
<---My male au ra has dark blue skin, weird look he wear red/yellow socks...
Can't dye ion socks. Only can dye for pants..

It's great to see the ears finally made it (though it took way too long).

The rest of the outfit is pretty meh. (And the clown-sized bow tie looks ridiculous on both genders.) I think the primary reason it was even asked for was as an example of the numbers being off, with more female gear than male. And it's only a small step towards improving those numbers (which is then negated by new female-only gear). If they were going to unlock one outfit to improve the situation, I wish it would at least have been a more attractive one, like the female-only Thavnarian set. (There was a popular thread from years ago, where an artist showed how great that set could look on males.)

But at least I can finally get my bunny ears. :cool:

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Originally Posted by Tint

i said it's dusgusting. the bunny suit is not sexy or attractive in any way. i literally have to throw up when i see that stuff.

but when people want to dress up as 2 dollar hooker so be it. just... stay away from me.

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Wow... it's not that serious. If it is that upsetting I recommend you invest in a single player game where you can control everyone in it and dress them in a way that doesn't make you vomit.

I didn't have interest beyond the ears for my male character but now that I see it's "so controversial" I'll be glamming the whole set on him in support of the "2 dollar hooker" look. Really, who cares if only "fujoshi and drag queens" enjoy the outfit (which is not true, but even if it was). Let them have fun!

Let's all stop worrying about what other people are doing with their pretend pixel people and enjoy the new patch, hm? c: