Male Spring Bottoms. What the hell?

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Originally Posted by Okamimaru

Shorts rolled up above the knee look ridiculous on any grown man in any setting.... if you want shorts suggest cargo shorts, board shorts, athletic shorts... and where is this magical land where men roll their shorts over their knees?

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https://www.google.de/search?client=....0.Uv1tfz7v7q8

And yes I have already seen enough men with short jeans. Some of these examples are like the female version just a bit longer.

I mean if they didn't want to go "too short" for whatever reason. They could do something like this...

http://i37.tinypic.com/f0vzw6.png
https://theindecisiveclown.files.wor...na-300x350.jpg

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Originally Posted by Alleo

https://www.google.de/search?client=....0.Uv1tfz7v7q8

And yes I have already seen enough men with short jeans. Some of these examples are like the female version just a bit longer.

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FF14... where if you're not playing a female character the players demand you dress like one anyway...

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Originally Posted by Okamimaru

FF14... where if you're not playing a female character the players demand you dress like one anyway...

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Nobody is demanding anyone has to wear anything they don't want. It's just that these are called 'shorts' and they are most certainly NOT shorts for male characters.

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Originally Posted by Okamimaru

FF14... where if you're not playing a female character the players demand you dress like one anyway...

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If you got that from this thread, and you think all shorts are meant for females only, I don't know what to say. Hope you live in a cold climate and never want to wear clothes on your bottom half that expose your shins?

Cargo shorts, Bermuda shorts, athletic shorts, jean shorts... all of these and more are socially acceptable for men to wear, all are absent from this game. Google "men's shorts", click on images, and be amazed at all the options SE has at their disposal but choose not to implement for reasons.

Then look at some examples of men's fashion and gear in other games and wonder if, perhaps, SE's clothing designers are too focused on dressing up their female characters and only give men gear as a necessary afterthought.

All I'm saying is no tight short shorts for guys... we already have too many banana hammocks and stupid subligars... I don't want yet another bottom for guys that shows off the fact we have nothing to show off...

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Originally Posted by Okamimaru

FF14... where if you're not playing a female character the players demand you dress like one anyway...

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So having common short jeans is dressing like a female? I mean come on we are not even talk about skirts. Do you hate subligars? The pig custome? Any of the robes that men can wear too?

Also they are not thight..I said rolled-up or knee lenght. And the pictures from google have completely normal short jeans.

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Originally Posted by Okamimaru

FF14... where if you're not playing a female character the players demand you dress like one anyway...

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You are right, I was thinking same thing, not once have I ever seen anyone from where I live have rolled up short, shorts and I only seen a fistful of woman wearing this style of shorts ever.
I was like whoa those look like girl shorts but best be careful posting your opinion in FFXIV forums like that you get put down because its their way or nothing.

Cant have anything cool looking for males it is put down and shamed and they will tell you not to wear it or nobody is forcing though we have nothing to look forward to with our sub money then why we even play if we cant have some sort of input.

Nothing against anyones style but I would like some stuff also that doesn't look girly.

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Originally Posted by Zeonx

You are right, I was thinking same thing, not once have I ever seen anyone from where I live have rolled up short, shorts and I only seen a fistful of woman wearing this style of shorts ever.
I was like whoa those look like girl shorts but best be careful posting your opinion in FFXIV forums like that you get put down because its their way or nothing.

Cant have anything cool looking for males it is put down and shamed and they will tell you not to wear it or nobody is forcing though we have nothing to look forward to with our sub money then why we even play if we cant have some sort of input.

Nothing against anyones style but I would like some stuff also that doesn't look girly.

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Again... have you read the thread? Or Theodric's thread explicitly asking for more cool and masculine gear? Or Lukha's thread pointing out out hypocritical it is that we can dress like pretty princesses but have less options than female characters because of unequal gear quantity and some bizarre gender lock restrictions?

A lot of people, myself included, desperately want more masculine gear for all jobs. I'm sorry if you were insulted or put down before but many of us actually do want to dress like the males we play, not some unisex or feminine characters. Generally speaking we're with you, not against you. :) Threads like this exist not because we want exactly what the girls get, necessarily, but because we see what they get and want something of similar quality or variety. If girls get shorts, why can't guys have shorts? If girls get skirts, why can't we have pants or shorts with some unique patterns on them?

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

This

Should not

Have happened

(Butler's slacks, wedding pants, best man's)

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While I understand the overall frustration with the lack of variety, I don't think these three sets are the right ones to make an example of the issue. They're all variations on mens' suits, so in this case it makes sense for them to be similar-or-the-same.