Raid loot is ridiculous

I remember when video games were about having fun with the game itself.

You don't need that gear to do anything, by the time it could actually be useful there will already be new sets of even better gear.
I've always looked at raid gear as a nice bonus for raiders rather than what you're actually raiding for.
Yes we all want the best gear but if that's the only reason you're raiding then honestly I think you're doing it for the wrong reason.

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Originally Posted by SigmaOZ

A change is needed, I hate the raid loot system as well, by the time I finally assemble a whole set something even stronger is added to the game and what I just got is no longer useful!...

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They could fix the fact that current gear is pretty much moot to hell in the next patch.
Gear is tossed around like nothing in this game.

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Originally Posted by Rasylia

The thing is, unless you go do Savage, you don't need anything else than tome-stone gear. There is exactly 0 content you can do whereyou would need the 320 Items from Omega Normal - eexcept savage.

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Let me ask this then, if it is not needed, why do people do it? People shouldn't be bothering with it at all.

For people that care about salvage they penta meld crafted, and what have to say next moves into replying to this:

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

If the loot system bothers you, why not get the crafted stuff? If it's too expensive, level your crafters and make it yourself. The whole point of the randomized loot rolls is to ensure people continuously run it. If I could get all four of my drops in a couple of runs. I'd go in Tuesday morning and not touch it again until the following Tuesday. Crafted gear was made for people who don't want to battle RNG.

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Depending on RNG to have people run content is telling me "We do not make good enough content so we need to hand out our carrot on the stick"

So going by this logic, why is delta normal ran at all since 4.05?

The problem I have with the "better then old days" is this, having 24 people go after 3 RNG drops where a lot of people leave with nothing, is that pressured to get it done in a week? The thing that makes these posts exists is that we should not be spending 5-8 hours on 4 runs a week because unlucky while some do 1/1 to total 50 mins or so.. it is hugely unfair, and with a game "appealing to causal progress" (why we have the strict 450 weekly) the RNG loot in this manner goes against the logic. For me, there is no point in stepping foot in deltascape 2 weeks after release, I do so to help others more so then gearing myself and there to do because there is nothing else.

So yes I am in agreement the system needs changing.

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Originally Posted by Jybril

They could fix the fact that current gear is pretty much moot to hell in the next patch.
Gear is tossed around like nothing in this game.

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And some people wonder why some have inventory issues -.-

I've ran Omega 3 fight today for 10 times already, and still haven't been able to obtain item from there.. and who knows how many more I need to before I get it..

This system is horrible and needs some changes.

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Originally Posted by hynaku

How is new system easy when run it multiple times just to never win a roll. How it is now 4 people don't get a thing for helping out. If they don't fix it I sure won't be running raids. Don't like running a dungeon or raid and feel like my time was wasted because you didn't get a thing out of it. Other mmo's played you get a item at end and keep saving them up each week to turn in for gear piece you want. then once tanks and healers get there items for week they stop then how is that going to help dps that didn't win a piece yet. Because there shortage on tanks.

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If you see a dungeon / raid without loot as "time wasted" i am afraid you are missing out the point of playing a game.
Its about having fun, not getting rewarded for every 2nd button you press.

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Originally Posted by Snow_Princess

Let me ask this then, if it is not needed, why do people do it? People shouldn't be bothering with it at all.

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Because bragging, maximizing your stats and overall improvement of your character.
Not needed =/= Not wanted.
Stop trying to act smart when you know jack ....

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Originally Posted by Rasylia

If you see a dungeon / raid without loot as "time wasted" i am afraid you are missing out the point of playing a game.
Its about having fun, not getting rewarded for every 2nd button you press.



Because bragging, maximizing your stats and overall improvement of your character.
Not needed =/= Not wanted.
Stop trying to act smart when you know jack ....

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You said "The thing is, unless you go do Savage, you don't need anything else than tome-stone gear" and you need to do savage to "Because bragging" and "maximizing your stats and overall improvement of your character. " Without doing savage, trying to attempt both those reasons is nonsensical. Also the next best would be penta melding 320 gear, penta melding VI wt gear, after savage. There is no way to have the "best" from deltascape normal, so it was pretty much dead content the second week it was released, from a point of view for someone trying to absolute max. (outside of D4N for the gears, so v1-3N are completely useless and not for one that maximizes things with the intent to brag.)

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Originally Posted by Snow_Princess

There is no way to have the "best" from deltascape normal, so it was pretty much dead content the second week it was released, from a point of view for someone trying to absolute max. (outside of D4N for the gears, so v1-3N are completely useless and not for one that maximizes things with the intent to brag.)

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Thats actually correct.
People do not run Delta normal that often anymore, i even have que time as a tank nowadays. A lot of my friends just dont even try to get items from there anymore because its not really needed (they don't do savage).
And, for people that run savage, they might be going Normal for extra loot, but need it? Nope.

That, however, doesnt change anything ive said before. Content will be popular, good, rewarding, and at some point, nothing of that anymore. You have to deal with it.

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Originally Posted by Rasylia

Thats actually correct.
People do not run Delta normal that often anymore, i even have que time as a tank nowadays. A lot of my friends just dont even try to get items from there anymore because its not really needed (they don't do savage).
And, for people that run savage, they might be going Normal for extra loot, but need it? Nope.

That, however, doesnt change anything ive said before. Content will be popular, good, rewarding, and at some point, nothing of that anymore. You have to deal with it.

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Deal with what? I am just explaining why I do not understand time gating it when it is useless, or became useless , @ 2weeks old
I am not dealing with nothing, I do not care, and I am explaining why I don't, and why it should change (how loot is handled) or even express "HEY DEV TEAM! you made this content useless @being 2 week old, even before people had body, it became outdated content, maybe in the future you might not want to outdate content so fast"

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Originally Posted by Snow_Princess

Stuffz

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Except for the fact that Delta normal soley exists so people who can't play their class beyond 50% potential can enjoy the story.
Delta normal was never intended to be anything more than a story raid. You can get some gear out of it as a bonus, but thats it. It encourages people who beat the fight to come back every then and now and let them help newcomers clearing it.

But hey, i am slowly getting really annoyed with your weird way of demanding for everything in the game to change instead of just looking for a new game. Basicly nothing that exists can satisfy you, according to the way to act here in the forum, and anyone who doesnt side with you is either imcomptetent, doesnt know what he is talking about or is simply wrong in what he sais.
PLease, refrain from seeking further contact with me. I'd like to keep my time here a bit more... positive.

So they made something that lasted a day then? kinda weird since it takes 4 weeks to get a body.