the new trial is too hard

Beat this in DF after 2 rather fail PF-made parties. A couple members were even new to the whole fight (think about that before you get dejected when somebody says they're new). Wiped once, learned what went wrong. And won.

It can be overwhelming at first. I found any difficulty came from tanks not knowing what to do/ fighting the other tank for mobs and not liberal use of the cannons to kill both adds and damage the boss.

So a good strat to do is

highest item level DD stay on Vishap whole fight
lowest item level DD and lowest item level Tank on the back most cannons (these cannons will take care of the adds)
mid item level DD(2) on the front most cannons attacking Vishap (when their cannons are blown they directly attack Vishap)
highest item level Healer heals majority of fight (its really not tough)
lowest item level Healer uses DragonKiller when possible (DPS and/or healing assist in the in between)
highest item level Tank grabs and pulls all adds to back most cannons (this keeps the AoE damage attacks to minimum healing)

Rinse and repeat through out the fight and you will win before he takes out the final cannons.

Tank pulls add to the back most cannon range and they clear them that way

Joined a duty finder party and made sure to take the time to explain what was going on to the new members. We one-shot him without even needing the third dragon killer.

Day one isn't the best day to proclaim whether something is too hard or not. In a few days I'm pretty sure most df parties will be clears.

I cleared it after 2 wipes. In DF. Everyon in the group said it was their first time, we tried, wiped, tried again, wiped, tried again and walked through it.

Did this early this morning after servers were up for a bit with a DF group. We were all new to it first run was a wipe not even down to 70%. Mainly because we didn't know about the cannons behind us til it was too late. Tanks and adds all over the place. People being stepped on and dying, etc. Second run Got him down to 50%ish people were rotating around on cannons, others on adds and then on boss, but still dps was so scattered about and people all over it wasn't good. Third try win, me (mnk and drg (since we are both more single dps) took the cannons and snares. The 2 blm's would aoe nuke the adds + boss. The 2 tanks would grab all the adds and keep them under the bosses belly so the cannons would hit boss + adds. We didn't even use the Dragon Killers lol, nobody ever went up into a tower. It's not hard, first time in there not knowing what to do yes, hard but not impossible nor no need for a nerf.

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

People hate doing anything that isn't a speedrush, a DPS race or anything that has interactions. Which I ADORE in this thing.
Thank for your listening to my "We need more environment interactions." They tell you when to get the cannons and stuff.

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They do this with Guildhests but it seems people never did those or learned from it tho it's a means to teach people how to play the game. You know stop attacking the turtle and lure it to the smoke sort of thing.

This gives me great hope for the other story trials. I just play with a few dudes, and I was worried the story stuff would be super hard and we'd never be able to do it. Guess that's not the case!

I'm in my 4th party attempt, 4 hours and no clear with DF

Its the last fight of the main story its supposed to be hard could you imagine if you could just 1 shot Sepheroh?

"Oh noes, we failed once. Better leave"-both tanks/healers just now in DF -.- #^%&^%$

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Originally Posted by Dererk

Its the last fight of the main story its supposed to be hard could you imagine if you could just 1 shot Sepheroh?

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I kind of agree with this...but I also didn't have to rely on two idiots across an internet connection to fight Sephiroth. :P I like fights that require mechanics and some degree of knowing what to do, but requiring that for an 8-man either means you take a while getting a party together OR you go into Duty Finder and yakety sax intensifies.