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Originally Posted by Kaze3434

its like you are being willfully ignorant. multiple people have posted the information saying what is going wrong and that the problem isnt being caused by SE, but by packet(the data being sent/received) loss from your isp to nodes(roads for said data to go thru to get to where they need to) that are owned by a specific company that is known to have this problem all the time. please, at least read what people are saying, and not simply dismiss it because "I DEMAND SE FIX THIS BECAUSE REASONS".
literally dumbed it down to where my mom would understand who and what is causing the problem.

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http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...755.1415578618

End of argument. Sorry folks!

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Originally Posted by Vespar

And yeah... http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...c98757b05b88f3 So I guess you can eat your words lol?

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No, she is still correct and it's been reported numerous times. The current issue may be DDoS, but Level3.net has been causing issues for SE for the past year for numerous people. Also notice how her post said: "Not caused by SE", so regardless, she is still correct even in that regard, so there's no "words to be eaten", sorry Vespar.

http://www.dailydot.com/esports/psn-...t-ddos-attack/

Not SE.

Oh and this:

http://www.cnet.com/news/world-of-wa...-down-by-ddos/

Still not SE. Unless SE owns Blizzard, PSN, or Riot (League of Legends), everyone's getting some love from DDoS attacks.

Oh! M. Night Shyamlan twist! Level 3 is causing the DDoS attacks!

Wait, is that an M. Night Shyamlan twist? I'm not good at analogies.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

No, she is still correct and it's been reported numerous times. The current issue may be DDoS, but Level3.net has been causing issues for SE for the past year for numerous people. Also notice how her post said: "Not caused by SE", so regardless, she is still correct even in that regard, so there's no "words to be eaten", sorry Vespar.

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People kept saying in this thread that level3 had an outage... But SE has just confirmed this wasn't the case. So Im less inclined to believe the folks who kept providing "misinformation" which was again... MY ONLY argument towards people on here. Packet Loss and DDoS attacks are two entirely different things, though they may be apples and oranges to someone who has no clue. Which is why, rather than believing the misinformation, I requested folks wait to hear SE's word on the matter and it turns out my hunch was right.

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Originally Posted by Vespar

People kept saying in this thread that level3 had an outage... But SE has just confirmed this wasn't the case.

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That's the thing actually - Level3.net did have an outtage recently and is currently having spotty outtages, it just happens that wasn't the case for XIV the past 2 days, however people who say level3 causes issues are correct since that too has been confirmed by numerous companies, but level3 happens to be the biggest (and cost effective) data solution people use (and clearly a pretty solid contract that companies can't just sign out of.)

So people naturally pointed towards that because that has already been confirmed to be a problem with some MMOs and services recently.

Dang these servers crash alot... not cool

DDoS attacks

DDOS still has to go through hops. It doesn't just magically show up at the server... Since it seems the servers are near level 3 hops, it would make sense that a DDOS would end up both affecting the server AND level 3 traffic. Level 3 having issues is an indicator of either bad switches, or an overload. A DDOS powerful enough could cause the 2nd so if anything the level 3 issues were an indicator of a possible DDOS that was packeting through their hops.

Which in the end - still not SE's fault