Gearswaps are dead - long live the Jobswaps!

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Originally Posted by Nel_Celestine

While i can agree with that, lets flip the coin.

Archer seems to be the best DD for this due to being able to stay outside the AoE range and Conjurer helps with healing the tank for rushing to the boss fight. Lets say there now there are two people who want to do the run. One person ONLY has Archer up to Rank50 and the other has BOTH Archer and Conjurer. With the current mind set you will pick the second one and have them swap FORCING the other play to go level a job she/he might not have an interest in JUST so they can participate in a dungeon run.

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Not how we do things. We don't force anyone to do anything, we ask and if they say no then your done and you find someone else. These dungeons are really meant to be done with a LS especially since it is considered the temporary end game content. That problem may rise up but you have an option, either do it or don't, noone is going to force you to do anything. Either you will allow it or find another group, end of story.

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Originally Posted by Rinsui

Besides, just like with FFXIV, people possibly simply couldn't believe the initial reviews... ;)
Or they made the mistake to pre-order...

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lol im on the latter i pre ordered :| fuck

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Originally Posted by Dargoth_Draconia

Not how we do things. We don't force anyone to do anything, we ask and if they say no then your done and you find someone else. These dungeons are really meant to be done with a LS especially since it is considered the temporary end game content. That problem may rise up but you have an option, either do it or don't, noone is going to force you to do anything. Either you will allow it or find another group, end of story.

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so ur saying if i ever want to do a dungeon and if i dont have 50 arch and con and if u ask to come as both and i say i dont have it we'll be done and ull find someone else and ill be fucked out of a dungeon

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

I have already voiced my opinion on this, Durring a "Raid" you should be locked to the class you entered with.

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I would also like if we were locked in the class we started on for anything instanced. I think it will call for more strategy and teamwork. I'd like to see people learning to overcome challenges with the class/job they've chosen than just use all of them to accomplish things. Seems it would take away from the experience if people could just do everything and anything at the drop of a hat.

If people are going to be able to use all the classes at any time, why even have more than one class in the game? Why not just make one class that can do everything? It's basically the same thing.

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Originally Posted by DoctorMog

Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything. Yes some class combos are better than others, but who said you HAVE to do them?

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The precedent set by FFXI would like to have a word with you. History is repeating itself, from the looks of it. I'm surprised you have yet to understand its stuff like this that heavily influences trends in-game.

It doesnt seem like anyone has mentioned inventory space. You can tell with the direction they're starting to take with gear that by the time they start raising level cap that you'll be wearing a ton of class specific gear in order to be the best. Noone is going to be able to bring 3 or 4 classes to switch multiple times in a raid because theres no way they'll be able to remain optimal with limited inventory.
Maybe you could bring two classes. or bring more and be gimp in the gear department, but that will eventually have an impact on end game.

As much as i hate the idea of people who have more time to play having an advantage over those of us who are lucky to get one class to max rank, i cant see locking classes once in a dungeon. It's counter-intuitive to the armoury system

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Originally Posted by danny52844

so ur saying if i ever want to do a dungeon and if i dont have 50 arch and con and if u ask to come as both and i say i dont have it we'll be done and ull find someone else and ill be fucked out of a dungeon

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I was simply using those 2 classes as an example. If you don't have either class that isn't needed to into a dungeon with my group then no, you would not be invited. Does that mean you are screwed out of a run? No, because there is 100 other groups running these things.

Plus how does this differ from switching jobs in the middle of the dungeon? If you don't have said job to begin with you aren't going. If you are already in the run people aren't going to ask you to switch to a class you do not have, or you are not geared/specced for, unless there is no choice and then you ask. If you say no you start over, the run only takes an hour to complete and most people have 10-15 minutes left over after they drop the boss. Starting over costs you usually only a handful of time.

job swaps are fine with me, as long as we can never do it mid-fight. That's one aspect of this game I really really like.

I kind of agree with Molly. Class changing, as long as it can't be done in the middle of a fight, is kind of what this game is all about.

That's what I was saying as well. That was the idea this game was built on, not having to go all the way to the Moghouse or w/e to change you class, this isn't FFXI. You inventory space is the key and bringing weapons a long and taking up your inventory space with weapons and armor. I would like to see more class specific single class/job only gear. This way it will take up a lot more inventory space and change the fact you can run around and be any Melee DD by using the same set of gear. I think some of these people might be happy with that, the others will never be happy. Lol.