Time limit to re-enter dungeons

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

Don't you think this news caters to both?

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It depends on the difficulty and duration of the rank 50 dungeon, otherwise it's only generally catering towards the lighter playerbase that seems to be the most vocal.

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

I think the Dev Team has outright stated that these dungeons aren't there answer for End Game content.

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well yea your right. like i said , this is dejavu from when they announced the NMs with 5min re spawn.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

It's only good news for people who can barely play an MMORPG -- "People who play a lot and people who don't play a lot" can't play the same game without one conforming to the other playstyle because companies prefer to cater to the ones who can't play a lot than the ones who can, hence why WoW is such a popular MMO and why Farmville is the most utilized online game ever.

If you had "freedom" in this game, they would specifically release content for both sides of the gamerbase, not continually make the game even more accessible to those with limited playtime.

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This content is for both sides though, and it's not like they're stopping with making content^^ This all goes towards their relaunch, it's just an extra layer of icing. The overall core product is more important for relaunch then it is for tiding over the hardcores who will do nothing but these dungeons over and over and over again then bytch LoL ... There IS and WILL be more than just dungeons to run, if you're the type of hardcore who wants to just run same content and do same thing day in day out you go ahead >.< and it's a fact majority of us have lives and work outside the game. Not to mention friends and other social gatherings and/or all the other games you can/want to play. This is obvious and I'm glad SE "Gets it" and isn't catering to people with 10+ hours to spend on the game per day, it's just not practical :P

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

Sorry, End Game is End Game. You can make your own personal definitions all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that no one, not even the Dev Team, see these dungeons as End Game content.

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feel free to link me to where they said as much <3

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Originally Posted by Richard

feel free to link me to where they said as much <3

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And you can feel free to link me to where they said it was end game content. 2 people can play this game.

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

And you can feel free to link me to where they said it was end game content. 2 people can play this game.

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Endgame content is done at the level cap and is the hardest stuff to do. Currently it's the only endgame content we have which makes it...

endgame content.

I think hardcore gamers aim for end game content. This is not end game content.So in short is not for both.


Also i consider myself a casual, but not for that i have to insult and /or put down people for choosing a different game style.
Treat others like you would like to be treated.
@misha last post , ninja edit didnt let me "reply with quote". D=.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

It depends on the difficulty and duration of the rank 50 dungeon, otherwise it's only generally catering towards the lighter playerbase that seems to be the most vocal.

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I think that even hardcore linkshells, except for the biggest, will have trouble running these dungeons without the 5 minute refresh. All the scheduling is a hassle to begin with, not to mention determining who gets loot when, and sprinkle on the fact that if 1 person in a planned run has something come up and can't make a scheduled event, the remaining 7 players are left scrambling to find an 8th person who wouldn't have been locked out of the dungeon.

What it comes down to me is: These dungeons feel like supplemental content. More of them are coming. Bigger end game stuff is coming. And we have no real idea how fast it is going to get here.

We have evidence that the Team IS working on multiple things at once, hence why Beastman Quest Hubs are coming out now instead of 1.19 as was planned. Who's to say we won't see 1.19 sometime next month?

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Originally Posted by Richard

Endgame content is done at the level cap and is the hardest stuff to do. Currently it's the only endgame content we have which makes it...

endgame content.

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Except that the second dungeon is not r50, it is r45. r45 =/= level cap, and hence doesn't qualify for your 'definition' of end game. Sorry, you are wrong.

I can see why people are a little concerned that this will cheapen dungeons, if you like, but I'm open to the idea of being able to re-enter whenever~

I mean, initially, I didn't think I'd like the five minute repop on NMs, but I don't think I could have it any other way now!