This is why you're not justified in being so angry.

The analogies don't apply because none of those entertainment options are designed to bind like MMOs.

Most of the complaints are about limitations that are designed to prolong the time we spend on this game, or to fragment that time to prolong the subscription. While other forms of entertainment often give incentives to keep subscribing (e.g. get a free movie for X movies rented etc), this game puts in artificial limitations and bottlenecks in character progression (i.e. you can only watch 15 minutes of each movies you bought per day and never more than that, thank you for understanding).

Simple analogies like that and those calculations are absurd because the inherent design and background of these forms of entertainment are different.

Free to play mmos are even a better bargain, you don't even have to pay at all.

Just my 2 cents. But Final Fantasy has and always will be based around lore. There's lots of extra little things to do around the game. And don't rush your weekly raids so much. Slow down and hang out with friends.

2.1 just launched a few weeks ago, the thing that keeps MMO's alive is proper timing of content. You can't expect them to rush it, but you can't expect them to take forever either. They are just getting into the swing of things. Content will start releasing soon, and at the right pace to keep everyone happy. Just give it time. No MMO smashed everything out perfectly. I think every 2-3 weeks of demanding content is a little extreme =/

Most of all, show some damn respect people! It's ridiculous that you treat the development team so poorly. This is a game they work hard to make, they deal with SO many people and issues coming up. Your negative attitude is pathetic. If you treat them with respect, they will respect you back and value your opinions more.

Life lesson by Dalavon.

Well I'll be honest here, I am not rich, I pay for this game mainly because of the branding, so I am here expecting a lot for FFXIV.

I never thought about the money I spend in this game because I am having fun for the first and half month of release, but inevitably things gets dull as time goes by without new content, 2.1 was great but it took too long and I know why it took too long but this must be pre-emptively calculated and taken into consideration. Many friends left, many fc members quitted and with the coming of 2.1, its already too late because the game was way too incomplete at launch.

Seeing this post to remind me of the time I spend in this game proportional to the cost I paid is annoying as hell because I prefer if you can proof to me a proportional between cost vs expectation/contents in the game, then its more logical.

Let me honest here, the same old content from August till December with the amount of cost paid just to keep running the same old content, its a total betrayal of most people's expectations for the game.

Well that being said, this post has clearly helped to make up my mind.

Edit: I forgot to mention, me having experienced TERA and Dragon's Prophet which are free MMOs felt that they have as much content as FFXIV 2.0 had and even partially some content of FFXIV 2.1.

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Originally Posted by Archona

Oh I forgot, the forums are just a place for fanboys to circlejerk each other while the game fades away into mediocrity and the company loses profit. Right. Makes sense.

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Gasp! You're just a hateful neckbeard that needs something to be angry about, you couldn't possibly care about the future viability of this game!

Sarcasm aside, the people that express their dissatisfaction aren't upset because they hate 14. They're upset because they can see the ugly mediocrity that this game is headed toward.

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Originally Posted by Rhysati

So if I go to McDonalds and they get my order completely wrong, I have no reason to be upset?

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McDonalds is a service designed to cater to an individual per order, not a simultaneously shared order meant for hundreds of thousands of people.

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Originally Posted by Rhysati

If I buy a DVD sold as new and it has obviously been used and has scratches and won't play...I have no reason to be upset?

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A product damaged beyond functionality for an individual, a functional MMO for hundreds of thousands of people is not. Regardless: If your game disk was sold damaged, it would be your responsibility to replace under the vendor's return policy.

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If I buy a candy bar for 50 cents that has worms in it, I have no reason to be upset?

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See above. Also: Terrible analogy is terrible.

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Originally Posted by Rhysati

Here's news for you: Cost has absolutely nothing to do with satisfaction. If you believe otherwise, I'll sell you my phone for a few grand. You'll be very satisfied!

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Value is not necessarily the same as cost. but I digress.

All OP has demonstrated was that this MMO is cheaper than other forms of entertainment.

Because something is cheaper than some other thing doesn't mean that every single person who buys it will be satisfied with the product (you don't even know if they buy that other thing, too, or if they are satisfied with it).



PS: at some point in my life, I had very little money. Guess what? I played mmo and did little else precisely because it was a cheap form of entertainment.

I didn't buy or rent dvds. I hardly ever went to the cinema except when I had discounts or was invited. I didn't go to concerts or sports events (way too expensive).

Does that mean I had no right to be dissatisfied, just because I should have been happy that there was a service I could afford at all?

People need to value their money..
IDK if its 15 bucks a month for your time. you're also paying for time with other people... meaning "ITS MY MONEY ILL PLAY HOW I WANT" is crap.

does anyone actually read the tos?

so if you deserve to be drowned in a bathtub, it should happen.

fanboys. fanboys everywhere lol. if u guys like it easy then defend this game all u want. because sooner or later you'll reach a point where everything is just stagnation. everyone right now wears the same gear, everyone can craft everything. there is no individuality in this game. nothing to be proud of because hey, so what if u had all ur classes to 50 in the first month. its not like u can gear them up past ilvl 70. and some might say, hey man, u can clear high level content with ilv70 gear duh. to what end? u dont get anything out of it. plus it locks out your main class that u want to gear.

and hey, u have all crafts and gathering to 50, but theres nothing to buy with the money apart from the absurdly priced housing. and what? some of the crafted materials are sold from npcs now? yayyyy!! we always wanted the majority of the crafted items to be worthless in the market. philo bonuses reduced crafted gear to almost nothing now.

in the end this multiclass armory system is pointless. because you're pretty much locked down to just 1 or 2 classes that u can really progress with. and thats just sad. if this game keeps heading towards this direction then, well. more of these "complaint/whine?qq" threads will pop up. because the fact is that this game needs a lot of things fixed otherwise i dont see a bright future for this game. SE needs to step it up

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Originally Posted by Imapooonu

No, and Square did not pee in your game either. If you feel that somehow they did, I'd stop paying and call customer support.

Just my 2 sense

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they peed on every legacy player and trashed everything we had.