Further proof that the market wards are a festival of failure.

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Originally Posted by Kiara

Hi Renta,

Actually it does happen with some items already. 2 days ago, we had Iron Nuggets up to "45" selling slots (of course only the top 20 were displayed). And the first 10 were some random jibberish name for a Retainer selling them at dirt cheap prices. The 2nd 10 Slots were another retainer selling them for 200 gil more. I couldn't see anything beyond that.

It's not happening everywhere, but I'm just curious / asking everyone if they had solutions for situations like this? Thanks.

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haha, on my server theres 41 crab bows in the wards, only the top 20 show which are just dirt cheap NQs.

By OP, page 1. "Rawr! I hate the wards! Everyone hates the wards! They're Doomed! It must go!"

Page 5... "No no, I'm not saying the MWs are terrible, I'm just saying something needs to change"

Like many people who come onto the forums. It starts as a rage. Whatever isnt working is assumed it will never work good, can't be fixed and only a total remodel, remake, redesign will do to please them.

There isn't anything in this game that is working so badly that it needs to be taken out completely. Battle Regimen, Leves, Market Wards....everything has the potential of becoming better than it currently is and probably will be.

I was speaking to a new member of my LS, telling him all the things that have changed and things that are changing. He was shocked saying something along the lines of "they're changing XIV so much I wonder how it will stay unique". The first thing I mentioned in response to this was something like "Well we still have the Armory system and that's unique"

Thinking now about that conversation, I also remember people raging about the Armory system, that its a total failure, that it needs to change completely....which is ridiculous....just like completely removing the unique Market Wards and Retainers system and replacing it with the same old AH system.


My suggestion to improve the MW system is that they need to some how link them together. Right now, almost everyone on our server is selling their goods primarily in Uldah. To reduce congestion and increase population in other cities, a link to all cities MWs would allow players to sell with their retainer in any town and anyone could shop efficiently in any town.

So for example lets say a retainer exists in Limsa and I'm shopping in Uldah. Instead of going to that retainer, perhaps if they implement a mail system, that retainer can send the item to me in the mail for a small extra charge.

They'll probably give us the our Auction Houses when they fix the problems with the server.

The people that play the game want an AH. Ask anyone in game.

SE should do one and drop the market wards sooner rather than later.

Its not just awkward and annoying and time consuming, with the lack of HQ item
visibility its also not fit for purpose.

I would rather see an AH put in before any more combat/class revamps.

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Originally Posted by SomniOmnis

The people that play the game want an AH. Ask anyone in game.

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While I would not pretend to know who has majority, you cannot say this 100%. I play the game, and I still do not want an AH. However I'm not against improvements to the wards.

Yep...I have hated and still hate the market wards. And festival of failure is now in my vocabulary and its not going anywhere soon.

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Originally Posted by Xandre

I don't think you understand the concept of an auction house. You aren't actually bidding. It's simply the name given to the system.

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Some in-game auction houses do use bidding. The problem is that "Auction House" is a stupid name for a counter where you buy things. The phrase "auction house" has an actual meaning and it just confuses the conversation. Some people have played games where "Auction Houses" have auctions only. Some people have played games where "Auctions Houses" are just a Stuff for Sale Counter, and other people have never played either type of game and, for some odd reason, assume that when people scream "i want an auction house"...that auctions are involved...

If you want to just buy stuff from a single window...why don't you say:

"I'd like to be able to buy directly from the Item Search Counter."

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Originally Posted by Xandre

I don't think you understand the concept of an auction house. You aren't actually bidding. It's simply the name given to the system.

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I know...
Thats what I'm saying.. I don't mind an AH as long as it's not the "bidding model" of an AH....
There are indeed AH models where you do bid and I just don't wanna see it...
How did you catch my subliminal messages though?

I do not want auctions. I have no problems with the time and convinence that most MMO's market systems have and feel they can be implemented into the Marketwards without implementing the arbitrary Timed or Blind biding systems which are
1. More time consuming then market wards
2. Easily manipulated by RMT
3. Full of Greed and Fail

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Originally Posted by SomniOmnis

The people that play the game want an AH. Ask anyone in game.

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No they don't, They want an easier time and convenience model and keep using words that have too much baggage as a way to easily say what they want.

On the other hand those of us claiming to not want said words with said baggage do not want the baggage. We would all embrace the time and convenience benefits.

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Originally Posted by Neptune

It's not that they couldn't still have market wards. And it's not that an auction house wouldn't be terrible. They just need to make something work, and right now it ain't working. I kind of favor the market ward system but a wow cloned auction house in their own UI would probably be best.

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[QUOTE=Cairdeas;180606]I do not want auctions. I have no problems with the time and convinence that most MMO's market systems have and feel they can be implemented into the Marketwards without implementing the arbitrary Timed or Blind biding systems which are
1. More time consuming then market wards
2. Easily manipulated by RMT
3. Full of Greed and Fail
Thats wow's ah system!

Wow style aution house? I and alot of other's that play XIV are XI fans NOT wow fans.

I dont want the style of ah that is used by wow at all, I think most that say AH mean
FFXI's auction house not wow's and if you played xi you know there is a difference.

HOW about XI style auction house, ppl must have never played XI it had an completely functional ah, mail system and player housing/mog house all of which didnt crash every other day......

This game ffxiv if anything should follow in its brothers footseps not a game from a different company...

Also if the wards are so iffy now(they have stated the issues with server lag effecting wards) imagine if they actually think they are gonna have a influx of new players, imagine then the server lag issues when wards are stuffed from door to door with so many stupid retainers itta make your head spin. How will that be fixed? Cairdeas
Multiple numbered wards in each town making it way more inconvenint then it already is?

A FFXI style Auction house/mail system just makes too much sense i guess, what is wrong with ppl the wards are just sooooo inconvenint.... =/

FFXI AH simple straight forward no bidding you go buy and get outa your mailbox

>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfDk44X2HoY<<
This is FF style AH this would be great in XIV!

WoW AH full of trick and cheats.!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G32GnQb4G70