Full STR WAR is nothing to write off.

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Originally Posted by Gamemako

Breaking 1200 requires insane DPS gearing and STR pot. The highest reasonable average shot heals for 1500 or so with Maim and Storm's Eye up (1.25 damage per potency). You get about 41% more out of Berserk and 50% on crit.

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The highest reasonable minimum heals for that yes. I agree with your numbers here, i disagree about requiring insane STR gearing.

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Originally Posted by Gamemako

Gryphonskin with 45 strength and 45 dex adds about 1% total mitigation. If you went full STR and gained 1% mitigation out of it, you'd be behind for all cases less than 1000 incoming DPS due to the difference in passive regeneration alone.

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Everyone always forgets passive regen. I don't consider the mitigation gain to be the main reason for taking the STR though, the main reason is Inner Beast. That and making easy-mode threat even easier, allowing me to use Storm's Path more often.

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Originally Posted by Gamemako

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Originally Posted by Paikis

That's the thing. That 1,300 damage hit on Inner Beast just healed the guy who did it for 3,900hp. About half his health. That is why STR gearing is a great idea on WAR and only an OK idea for a PLD... maybe... if you have enough HP.

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Breaking 1200 requires insane DPS gearing and STR pot. The highest reasonable average shot heals for 1500 or so with Maim and Storm's Eye up (1.25 damage per potency). You get about 41% more out of Berserk and 50% on crit.

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1200 hit => 3600 heal
500 hit => 1500 heal

Assuming you geared Warrior like you would a normal tank
369 STR (50 less than your current) and 534 VIT (50 more than your current). Which is closer to 420 hit with just Maim and SE.

I've already tested this amount so it's much more reasonable than how you chose to gear yourself.

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Originally Posted by Exstal

369 STR (50 less than your current) and 534 VIT (50 more than your current). Which is closer to 420 hit with just Maim and SE.

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If you wear Gryphonskin accessories and allocate VIT, you will have 410 strength before party bonus. Beyond that is going to be rehash of the Gryphonskin vs. Allagan debate we've all seen 4000 times. Your hit is with 352 strength and an ilvl80 Bravura. You will get the remainder of the 500 damage from the elements I have pointed out.

//EDIT: Removed myself repeating what Extal had already said. Whoops.

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Originally Posted by OmegaSinX

It's also worth noting that it easier to make up for lost VIT (Food+Party Buff) Than it is to make up for lost STR (No food buffs STR that I know of).

Bottom line, Although VIT is the safer choice. I highly reccomend that people try Full STR + Grypho on Warrior. With 2.1 around the corner, I think STR WAR's will be more common.

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'It's easier to make up for lost vit'.

You have no idea what you're talking about..making up for lost vit. You SHOULDNT be losing vit, you can never get enough vit. Healers will laugh at your second rate huge cooldowns heal, or your amazing bloodbath healing you for 50 every whopping 2.5 second global cooldown. 'Boosting Second Wind' rofl.

Just no. If you have to make up for losing vit, you are most likely not outgearing the content, just doing it wrong. And if you bothered to check about 2.1 you'd see this would only get weaker.

But ok after all that you put one little sentence 'oh i think vit will still be better..or wait let me say 'safer''.

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Originally Posted by Menta

WAR´s do WP speed run faster than PLD in 2.0

WAR agro packs with damage and PLD do most of the AoE agro with flash + some scorn.
There is no way a PLD can do it faster

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Holy > Over Power

@ Megido
It's easier to make up for VIT with food then if you wanted a bit more STR. With buffs you can self heal 80-100 HP per mob per Overpower. So generally 400-480 per GCD in big pulls. Without gearing at all for STR it would be closer to 50-60 HP per mob or 300 per GCD

Reason why I said Vit will be more appealing to warriors come 2.1 is because of Inner Beast changes. However, there are some might debate that we now turn to Storm Path for our healing needs, which in best case scenario is only performed once every 10 seconds, only heals about 140HP now with Gryphonskins, Probably 145 HP when Allagan Axe gets bumped to ilvl 95. It is still way far from being able to replace the 200% Inner Beast which should be around 600 HP heal lost, which can be performed every 20 seconds.

That would give it a 310HP heal difference, if you want to look at it deeper we might have to drop Storm Eye all together, if you dont you can expect Storm Path every 20 seconds, which would make the variance be 460HP. This is the reason why I expect STR purely in the for of stat allocation will be more detrimental postpatch. With that said, still I believe Gryphonskin has a place in current content as BiS gear until new harder hitting content is released where that 400 HP will make a difference between surviving and feasting on dirt. You should expect to have around close to 430 STR without STR allocation in Party with Gryphonskins and other equips being ilvl 90.

Vit has always been more appealing to WARs when it came to allocation.
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After doing a lot of thinking and research I personally decided that post 2.1, with all the mitigation buffs War will be receiving, the crafted dps accessories melded with vit and parry are far superior for both tanks. I've begun building my set, got the earring done, 4 more to go!

I'm obviously going to keep my coil i90accessories, but the additional damage, parry/block amount, and parry chance make it worth it for a cost of around 400 hps.

I'll still be allocating 30 points into vit, I'll just be using the dps crafted accessories and switch to BC accessories when/if ever necessary.

Ya...wrong topic....please continue.....my apologies.....