Legit Players Banned/Punished due to RMT *FOR DUMMIES: A GUIDE*

I don't believe people who say they were wrongfully accused and lost millions. If that was the case then all those harvested items gil farmers bot would be confiscated too. So please if you were a legit player you wouldn't be wasting time making a post in the forums.

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Originally Posted by Eripha

I don't believe people who say they were wrongfully accused and lost millions. If that was the case then all those harvested items gil farmers bot would be confiscated too. So please if you were a legit player you wouldn't be wasting time making a post in the forums.

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It's because they are legit players that they are posting on the forums! Why wouldn't a person who made millions of gil through completely legitimate means (selling items on the market board to hundreds or thousands of other players) be angry about having their gil taken away, just because one of their customers may have been a gil buyer?

Nevermind that SE themselves said that the people they deemed innocent of wrongdoing would get their accounts reinstated.

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Originally Posted by Schubalts

It's because they are legit players that they are posting on the forums! Why wouldn't a person who made millions of gil through completely legitimate means (selling items on the market board to hundreds or thousands of other players) be angry about having their gil taken away, just because one of their customers may have been a gil buyer?

Nevermind that SE themselves said that the people they deemed innocent of wrongdoing would get their accounts reinstated.

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If that was the case it would be a domino effect. Player B buys 99 logs from Player C etc, that is why I'm calling it BS.

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Originally Posted by Lucroarna

I've seen many uninformed individuals attack people verbally, and accuse them of lying or buying gil. This is not the case, and I thought I would explain to the average person what the actual problem is here.

Player A: A person who bought gil
Player B: A person who didn't buy gil

Player A buys gil
Player B sells 99 logs for 4.5k on the market boards
Player A buys 99 log for 4.5k on the market boards from Player B's retainer
Player B makes a profit and receives gil from a player whose gil was obtained from cheating
Player B is banned for 5-10 days of a paid amount of time, and when returned to the game, has went from 1 million gil to 100k

I am not a player who has been banned, but I think this is ridiculous and the worst way I've seen an MMO handle RMT. There are better ways.

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off topic, but werent you quitting the game? why are you still here?

Go troll another thread. They can post here for as long as the subscription time they already purchased will last, and they should continue posting about this ridiculous situation.

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Originally Posted by Eripha

If that was the case it would be a domino effect. Player B buys 99 logs from Player C etc, that is why I'm calling it BS.

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That's another reason these players are angry. Absolutely nothing was done to the supposed gil buyers that bought their items, yet these supposed gil buyers are SE's reason for taking 99% of these crafters' gil.

hm, if it's mostly "innocents" like in this thread, who are extremely rude, insulting and passive agressive towards others , then i don't mind it one bit if such people were cought in the crossfire of square enix' recent actions tbh...

So this is SE's logic?

Person A: Steals $50
Person B: Puts something on eBay to sell
Person A: Buys it with the money they stole
Person A: Jailed for a week
Person B: Jailed for a week
Person B: Police confiscate $1,000,000 because they received stolen money and are deemed to have too much!

Ok....

This is not the first mmo that has removed money from a player.it affects the economy if 1000/5000 ppl on a server have millions more then the rest this early in a games life.it cripples the other 4000 players chances of gearing up when ppl price things so high.it can also inflate a servers economy by the other 4000 players farming and selling items for high prices and the rich 1000 buying them.and to think this can all happen from 1 person buying 100m from a RMT.so the simple and safest way to set things right is removing gil from the server.did u see how much money they removed??? The game would've been terrible for new players if it kept going.....honestly if u don't like their problem solving,go play something else

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Originally Posted by Sadebreth

"hai guiz, I don't understand anything about the subject I'm talking about, but I'm going to talk like I do, and anyone who disagree with me is wrong, because I said so!

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You're just like those people who spent 5 minutes on webmd and then promptly go to lecture their doctors because they are now experts :rolleyes:

Good lord, what do they teach in school these days? prove supply and demand? do you also ask your teacher to prove to you that the sky is blue?

Yeah... I've seen this before.

Your little demo should have been written more like this:

Player A buys gil
Player A uses that gil to level a craft
Player A swears to any god he can think of that he leveled that craft the legit way
Player A makes a fortune off of the craft
Player A gets banned for buying gil in the first place
Player A screams to the high heavens about injustice, but in the end, he still bought gil, no matter how much he denies it

Welcome to real life, where people do stupid shit and then lie about having done it because they don't want everyone to turn on them like sharks scenting blood in the water the second their actions catch back up to them.

I have a level 50 craft. I have a ridiculous amount of gil. I was not banned/suspended for it. Why? Because I actually DID do it the legit way. I made a fortune selling materia and used said fortune to level a craft, which I then used to make a greater fortune. In the end, you can make every excuse there is to make, but the fact that I did not get banned while others did speaks VOLUMES about their supposed innocence.