Stop Buying Titan Kills

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People who buy runs aren't affecting your gameplay directly, at all, in any way, shape, or form; please stop making threads to complain about things that don't matter.

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They are affecting other people's gameplay directly: By continuing to be bad instead of learning to be a good player.

The only good news here is that with the increasing number of people offering it, the price people are wlling to pay is going down. Eventually it won't be worth doing anymore and things will return to as they were before.

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Originally Posted by Yucie

If you do Titan once for a relic, then you technically never have to do it again.

People who buy runs aren't affecting your gameplay directly, at all, in any way, shape, or form; please stop making threads to complain about things that don't matter.

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No! they are. Because I will not find people to do Titan with for a free run ^^;

I personally don't care if people buy their last step to relic or not
As DF it is probably impossible so you need to bother your LS/FC to take you there anyway, and since there is nothing for most member to have in re-doing Titan, you can be a liability for 7 other people taking you there
So I can get behind giving people money to help you go through it

But the big problem is that we currently have a lot of RMT issues that are affecting everybody and people who are desperate for a Titan kill could resort buying from this people and make the situation worst.
I would advise people to wait, they will probably lower Titan anyway or you can wait for the right timing when other new 50 members also need the kill and form a static team until you do it

You don't need Titan RIGHT NOW. So please do not buy from RMT!
If you want to buy your way through Titan, at least have the decency to farm your own money to buy it.
Don't make other people get their account suspended and money wiped because of RMT who buy/sell on the markets because of your laziness/selfishness

Thank you :)

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Originally Posted by texhnolyze

i think most of the titan buyers are solo player, who have no LS/FC/friends whatsoever
i understand their struggle, doing titan hm with random DF pugs is almost impossible, but still, it's not impossible
if they're not willing to find LS/FC/friends, they'll have to deal with random DF pugs

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While I do have a LS my work schedule doesn't really work for prime time and I know its not anyone's fault but I often rely very heavily on DF as there isn't many people around when I can play. It's incredibly hard to get in a party with shouts I find although I am upfront that I've watched videos of the fight but I am new as I don't want the headache of listening to people complain. I guess I could be classed as casual compared to many who can play for hours on end but I still work hard for end game. I don't see my progress chances getting any better though it seems like each day that passes it just gets harder and harder to get stuff done. I know there is alot of people in my position and while I personally won't buy a win as I wanna do it myself but I can very much understand why people would. DF just doesn't work its like one loss and there goes the party its a mess sometimes.

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Originally Posted by Aramyth

1) Communicate with your group. Decide who is healing the main tank, who is healing raid, if you have more than one BRD coordinate songs with Battle Voice to get the most bang for your buck.
2) You don't even need a LB to beat Titan, so decide which LB and when is best for you group composition.
3) You don't need to stand entirely out of the Landslides in order to not get hit. You just need to be past the blank squiggly lines. (Gives people more space in Phase 5 during bombs+Landslide).
4) STACK for Stomps (easier healing for your healers) and DISPERSE for Plumes. Note: If you spread out as the plumes spawn in phase 5 the plumes will be closer together, which means yes if someone gets hit they WILL die, BUT you have more safe places to stand as opposed to trying to hide in a little triangle at the edge of the arena.
5) In Phase 5 when the GRID formation bombs spawn STACK on the middle bomb of the last row that spawns. Strafe/Side step out of the Landslide (assuming it's near you and remember the tip about Landslide). As the animation for the Landslide finishes, run into the centre of the arena. You will never get killed by these bombs using this strategy.
6) In Phase 5 when he puts someone in the Granite rock. Take a deep breath. :) It helps if you're the type to get nervous.
7) Practice. If you realize you could be holding a group back due to not being able to dodge, thank them for the experience and gracefully leave. You WILL find another group to do it with and you WILL get better at it. Don't get discouraged.
8) Remember to have fun.

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9) Perhaps this is just my own quirk, but it helped me quite a bit to turn the music off in Titan. I know many people enjoy it, but I personally found it rather jarring and it helped my concentration immensely during the fight to turn it off.

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Studying = putting forth effort to improve yourself. You will be prepared for future endeavors
Copying off someone else = taking the easy and lazy way out. You don't improve yourself at all. You won't be prepared for the future.

Exact same principles apply to Titan.

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Here is a thought that most people don't think about. If you are watching the video to see how to do the fight...that is cheating also...just as bad as paying for a win if you want to go that route...you did nothing to beat it on your own except see exactly how to do it. True skill would be to go into the fight "FRESH" and learn the fight and how to do it on your own and then beat it because you gained experience and gained the skill to beat it on your own.
If you play the entire game with a strategy guide open...then why play it??? You are suppose to figure the game out on your own.



I can see both sides of this argument for sure.
1. Players should be a little more forgiving on fights and give people a "fair shake" on getting better before they want to ditch them.
2. I also see how wiping on a fight numerous times can get very frustrating...especially when it's one person always holding you back.
3. People that do not have a good FC or not one at all I can see buying fights because they have no other choice, but is everyone entitled to a RELIC...I don't think so...it really should be earned through skill alone and I am so glad that you build your RELIC as opposed to how the random Primal Weapons drop and is so unfair. Someone walking around with a RELIC should be a "GOOD" player...period!!!!
4. Now on the other hand if beating the primals and getting relic is necessary for future content to progress for players then I can see buying wins again.

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Originally Posted by Mikedizzy

Here is a thought that most people don't think about. If you are watching the video to see how to do the fight...that is cheating also...just as bad as paying for a win if you want to go that route...you did nothing to beat it on your own except see exactly how to do it. True skill would be to go into the fight "FRESH" and learn the fight and how to do it on your own and then beat it because you gained experience and gained the skill to beat it on your own.
If you play the entire game with a strategy guide open...then why play it??? You are suppose to figure the game out on your own.

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Why do you feel the need to change the color of your text? It's making my eyes bleed.

If people would get in an endgame free company and not play this as a SOLO GAME, maybe they'd have a chance at getting their relic. It took my Free Company 3 nights of practice to get Titan down to a T and now we can run him no problem. People are too lazy when it comes to actually trying to beat content.

And you know, I love seeing people with Relic. And when they SUCK at playing that job with the relic, all I can do is laugh in their face and know they bought their win. I still love seeing Relic WHM throwing regen before every fight.

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Originally Posted by Nash

I'm posting this because I keep seeing more and more crafters on my server offering to meld materia for people at a cost. Infact, one of them is selling their melds for 10k a meld where the people who are getting materia melded are more often than not even crafters; they are battle classes 50% of the time.

These crafters aren't helping you. You aren't learning to meld. You're just going to need them again the next time you need to meld materia for your next relic because you didn't learn how to craft. Even that aside, it's downright saddening to see players resorting to having to "buy" their melds and even more upsetting to see our player base SELLING these melds. What happened to just wanting to play the game?

We've been joining pugs and helping them and "giving away" melds to people who ask.

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Does no one recognize sarcasm anymore?

If people wish to sell, and people wish to buy, I have no qualms with it. It's a good way for players to make more gil and a FC member of mine did buy a Titan kill, with money he earned in the game (namely selling materials on the AH, and being a far better money manager than I'll ever be). Up to that he did Garuda/Ifrit HM just fine (like 3 attempts max for each, I think?) and just didn't want to DF pug Titan HM due to the horror stories people come up with out of there, and he had plenty of extra gil laying around.

Personally I won't buy a run, namely as I want to save money (measely 100k, but then again my highest is 37) for housing at a later date and I enjoy the experience of failing and learning ('tis why I'm often grabbed to go do Arah runs in GW2, or grabbed to do silly runs like taking fearless level 2's through GW2 fractals. It's silly, fun, wrought with death and often ended with success and laughs). On the other hand, I have a friend whom I would not feel ill of if he paid for a run. Not because he lacks skill, but because he can get some nasty latency (which showed in the SM fight, as he was clear of red circles/death on his screen, but the server said he was dead).

Is this the practice keeping RMT in business? I doubt it... granted, RMT was around in more force before this practice became widely available. And if it was, RMT would be more prevalent in GW2 where people do this exact same thing with the harder content (Selling runs for Arah so players can get achievements/tokens).

Only time I get annoyed with it is when one person is spamming chat offering these services every two seconds.