To the people who are logged in overnight

We should email SE to complain about how they've created a bunch of immature adult sized children with this launch. These people are making it seem like SE has ruined their lives. SE has already expressed their apologies for the situation, therefore acknowledging that the problem exist. There are companies out there that won't even give the customers that benefit. So be an adult and accept their apology. Then maybe, with a little patience, we can all sit back and calmly await the impending fixes and maybe even some compensation for the lost time, as SE is also known to do that.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

Then why do you need everyone on at the same time not actually doing anything?
Do you actually have 500 members who don't use the duty finder or market wards?

New server structure goes up on Wednesday. I think you can do a little service to the rest of your Excalibur citizens and sacrifice a few days of hogging space. Who knows, it might actually benefit you in the end.

If not, well, I'm sorry to say but acting like a selfish jerk will only get you treated like a selfish jerk. If that's something you're really fine with, you have no need to justify yourself here.

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we need everyone online at the same time when we play, which we can only ensure by not logging out

no, i dont mind if others do not log out, either - first come, first served unless the pie is big enough for everyone, sorry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXH_fU6sXdY

Just auto-run in a corner in your inn, or get one of those toys for your desk, that wooden bird that drinks water an place it by your keyboard so it keeps pressing a key lol afk kicker fix ^^

Well I'm one of the few that does log off every time I'm not playing. IMO it's not cool or fair at all to stay logged in. Want my fellow players to enjoy the game to

These ignorant youngsters who are so contemptuous of all other players really make me glad I refuse to play with young ones as a general rule. It is 7pm Monday night here an I can not even log in on my server because of the hundreds of idiots who afk for days on end. I can only hope that they will get sick of the game soon enough an leave it for the real players who are actually interested in the game an the community.

Though looking at this forum, they are few an far between against the masses of.... well, anyway. I dont want to be banned. As these trolls in this thread who brag an insult anyone who refuses to log off as some silly teenage name are a prime example of todays entitled masses...

in a way you almost have to feel sorry for them because they honestly dont understand how idiotic what they are doing, is. Nothing is their fault, it's all SE in their eyes. Yet they are "Directly" at fault... an they are proud of it.

I very much doubt they would ban people over staying logged on afk... besides, as said before the amount of players doing it they would lose a pretty hefty chunk of their subs. >.>

I don't care what people's reasons are, staying logged in is selfish. Simple as. I have an 8 month old baby, I only get to play maybe an hour or two if I am lucky a day, not always everyday, while she naps. Other times she naps I need to do some housework. I get very little time to play compared to most, so if I have to spend 30 mins + attempting to log on, that's most of my days play time gone. Do I stay logged in? No. It's adding to the problem.

Thats like asking a five year old to give you their lolipop cause theyre already too fat... lol

How is it that its 7 AM EST time and the server is still full? I've played this game from all beta to early access, went away for a couple days, and now it is worse than ever at 7 AM? I could understand if it was a JP server, but how is an NA server full this time?

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Originally Posted by Eggochiggo

How is it that its 7 AM EST time and the server is still full? I've played this game from all beta to early access, went away for a couple days, and now it is worse than ever at 7 AM? I could understand if it was a JP server, but how is an NA server full this time?

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It's a holiday today. Labor Day.

3000+ people afk. meaning the normal rotation that would alleviate a lot of issues are being actually caused by them. They don't care unless it is them that get stuck not logging in. Can always have friends snap shot afkers

I would say that 80% of the people I know stay AFK overnight. It happens.

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Originally Posted by kazaran

3000+ people afk. meaning the normal rotation that would alleviate a lot of issues are being actually caused by them. They don't care unless it is them that get stuck not logging in. Can always have friends snap shot afkers

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Yeah, welcome to the entitlement issue of 'murica. They whine and complain that they can't log in, but then they purposefully make things worse by staying logged in afk. So glad I left that country... though they still manage to plague me.

People that are staying logged in are a huge problem because they are selfish as only God knows because they think they are entitled in some form or fashion.....you have no right to legitimately abuse the system in such a way but the only way you lame ass afkers care is if you get kicked the fuck or and can't get in then you cry foul....I've been lucky enough to play everyday even though I log out every time so that I can relieve at least one spot for someone else to be able to get in.....sure I bitch about not being able to get in but it's called sacrifice for what's right, not laugh while I'm in the wrong saying screw everyone else it's your fault you chose to log out.....

Lol @ this whole thread. I reserve my right to afk just as you reserve your right to whine about it.

Don't know why there's not an afk auto logoff in place like most mmos. Problem solved.

I agree, boot everyone after 15 mins and put in a normal queue

Its nothing but 'luck in logging in because lets see no server queue system, no Afk system, and nothing to try and at least counter bots. All these should have been a standard and I know these things where brought up back in beta saying they where needed. Yet for some reason its the players fault yeah not SE's at all I log out the game I have to mash X or 0 to get in the game I was lucky to even get in after wasting 6 hours pounding away at it only to get D/C'd. There is no system in place to traffic the players wanting to get in nothing but 'luck'. I don't see how its hard to understand why most people don't want to take a chance due to the companies lack of forecasting hell only time i don't log out is on the days I play all day other then that I just play something else since I know once i log out its going to be a pointless uphill battle that shouldn't have been there in the first place but its nice to all people out their names to justify your anger keep it up guys (classy) :3

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Originally Posted by Espi

Lol @ this whole thread. I reserve my right to afk just as you reserve your right to whine about it.

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Preventing players from logging in isn't a right.
For once in your life, act mature and log out when you're done.
I'm getting mighty sick of you wow kids already.

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Originally Posted by makii

Preventing players from logging in isn't a right.
For once in your life, act mature and log out when you're done.
I'm getting mighty sick of you wow kids already.

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And you know he is a wow kid how?
I also find this quite funny a person telling someone to act mature because you don't like what they are doing.

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Originally Posted by Lexxuk

I've been trying to log in for near enough 2 hours now, if I finally do manage to log in there is no way on Earth that I'm logging back out again. It's not my fault that SE are suffering from gross incompetence and so I'm not going to suffer the hours of trying to log in again tomorrow when I can just remain logged in.

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Sorry I couldn't read beyond that. Why? because
Staying logged in when you aren't playing is bad and you should feel bad. http://www.determinismsucks.net/arch...3183307%29.png

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Originally Posted by Symon17

I can agree with this. I've seen a lot of people in game talking about never logging off. "I've been online for three days!" and such. It's selfish. And what people fail to realize is one of the reasons they're even having so much trouble getting in is because everyone is just as selfish as they are.

The way I see it if you're done, log off. Save your electric bill, let other people play, and get a little rested exp. Everyone wins.

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since when did the blame get thrown on the players on why the server load is beyond maximim capacity? Lol I think you need to adjust your opinions towards the rightful party here. Its not that players fault that you can't log in. I would assume by now anyone with half a brain would see that the blame is solely on the team over at SE who can't manage a datacenter.

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Originally Posted by GiseleValkyrie

And you know he is a wow kid how?
I also find this quite funny a person telling someone to act mature because you don't like what they are doing.

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They just smell funny.

It's not about me not liking what he's doing. I can log in just fine.
It's about the thousands of players never getting in because people don't log off at night.
You'll get rest xp when you log off too, so win win.

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Originally Posted by makii

They just smell funny.

It's not about me not liking what he's doing. I can log in just fine.
It's about the thousands of players never getting in because people don't log off at night.
You'll get rest xp when you log off too, so win win.

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you get rested exp in town just sitting there too. you don't have to log off.

Took me 3hrs to log in today...

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Originally Posted by Crica

we need everyone online at the same time when we play, which we can only ensure by not logging out

no, i dont mind if others do not log out, either - first come, first served unless the pie is big enough for everyone, sorry

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Well there's that, and then there's standing by the pie and not eating it or allowing anyone else to eat it. In spite of the fact that we all paid for it.
You still haven't addressed why you need everyone online at once or even if you do have 500 members.

I wouldn't log out for something like a shopping trip (I don't usually have control over when those happen), but I don't leave my PC on when I go to bed. Reason for not logging out? I don't want to be slapped with 1017 when I'm finally back home, especially if I was doing something I wanted to get done with.

Once the AFK kick is implemented, sure it kicks me out as well, but on the other hand it makes it easier to log back in, too.

Honestly your all a bunch of whine babies, not logging out because you might get the 1017... get over it stop being so damn selfish, you are not the only one that wants to play. Some of us whom only get limited time to play can't.... Why because selfish morons feel they need to stay logged in ... "waa-waa-waa" go cry some where else and I will be more than happy when they put in the AFK-kick

Im pretty sure that its not the same timeszone of people that play the game. its EU/NA(PDT/NA/EST) ..and im sure some from other country wanted to not go in japan ones. And im sure some have school , some work morning/afternoon/nighttime. So im sure if everyone stay log in ofcourse the game will be full cos they dont want to see the "Server full" or they dont like reloging each time(ID/Password/sec.password) that too long for them.

But if you see that and They add the AFK kick .. --->For me<--- i can see the server goes as 2/4 to 3/4 full cos i saw many afk people and i repeat really many . even some not at the exp bonus spot to get the bonus .. they are just logged on

Not my fault that SE decided to arbitrarily lock people out instead of using the money they swindled us out of to expand the servers after open beta and do their jobs, if I get in anything short of something beyond my control knocking me offline I won't be logging off till 1017 is gone.

Why? Cause I didn't get to play in open beta due to 3012 cept for the meager 4 hours they gave us as an extension after they finally fixed 3012, and several of the days when the game launched I had power outages knock me out from thunderstorms leaving me trying to login for over 10 hours till it was already too late at night for me to really dedicate any time to play, not to mention all the "Emergency" maintenances that fixed NOTHING, and several other occurances of the 90000, and 3012 errors.

So just because of all that, what makes you any more entitled than me? We both paid to play this game, SE dropped the ball on that, but I deserve to play too.

Deal with it, be angry at the right people. Nobody is staying logged in just to piss YOU off, the whole world doesn't revolve around you either.

Not to mention any of you would be doing the exact same thing if you got in, so don't even try to lie.

Honestly every time I see this thread I just cant help but think that all these people saying for afkers to log out, just want a spot in the server and proceed to do the exact same thing. IMO If me and my friends are on that's good enough for me because kindness almost never goes a long way on the internet. I log on real early to get a spot on my server and it works every time but if people want to afk fine let them, they bought the game and can do whatever they want. The problem lies with SE being incompetent as always and you guys are just taking it out of players who have just as much a right to play as anyone who bought this game.

Either people just complain for the sake of complaining, or you guys are blind/skipping the important replies.

1. AFK system could be skipped by making a simple macro to cast a skill every X minutes.
2. The AFK system would kick what, 1000 players little by little?, the server at the moment holds 5,000 at a time, there are thousands wanting to log in, you would still receive 1017.
3. Hardware upgrades are the way to go if you want to even consider playing... once they do the hardware upgrade, they MIGHT add the AFK system if it is really needed.
4. Stop calling names and calling others selfish, or childish, you're not an adult if you post like 99.9% of these replies. Which most are harassment posts.

Now, can we get this over with?

Nothing will change if you keep complaining here, people ingame will not leave because of some forum posts. Sorry, that's how Internet works now.

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Originally Posted by ShellyB916

Honestly your all a bunch of whine babies, not logging out because you might get the 1017... get over it stop being so damn selfish, you are not the only one that wants to play. Some of us whom only get limited time to play can't.... Why because selfish morons feel they need to stay logged in ... "waa-waa-waa" go cry some where else and I will be more than happy when they put in the AFK-kick

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Actually the only people I see whining are the ones who are crying that people are staying AFK logged in. Like you.

After 1 week of going online officially, i can say that the afk people is a problem.... I played a lot this week in diffent times too. I made like a chart how long it takes me to logging... and for each passing day it goes worse, I estimated at peak hour I need to wait a lot and is all about luck... but at none peak hour and whats more in work days not to get inside... is true the biggest problem lies in SE... but that doesnt mean that all people are saints... everybody know that the servers are at full and going afk is not helping at all... I could too be one of many afk but i didnt... everybody have rights to play because all of us paid at this point. maybe i sound like i'm weaning but let be frank the people going afk are selfish... its not about 1 hour of afk because they need to do other things most of them know that they are going to be out more than a 4 hours and dont want to spend time trying to log in.

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Originally Posted by zeroga

After 1 week of going online officially, i can say that the afk people is a problem.

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And as I said earlier, you'd still be wrong. Kicking all the afkers would do NOTHING to get you and your crying, immature name calling, childish other posters any closer to logging in. Kicking a handful of players for afking every so often would do nothing, as there are still thousands trying to get in. Even if no one at all were afking, there STILL would be far to many thousands trying to get in during the worst login hours.

Sure, an afk kicker would open a 100 or so at best spots every half hour or so, and 100 or so new players would get in, but not only would those 100 people still have to get lucky and get in, the remaining 2900 others they fought for their seat would still be out in the cold same as now. And the amount of people trying to login at a given time is not static so even making that small dent is worthless.

cut and dry those that stay logged in for days are greedy and have no life thus why SE NEEDS to add an anti afk of some sort so the greedy people will learn to share i understand where there coming from to a point "if i don't log out then i can play whenever" but really how fair is it for 20000 people that never log out to hog a server and say F!@# everyone else its not and staying on 24/7 for weeks on end IMHO should flag your account as a gold farmer/seller and be ban-able just my 2 cents

Um, I'm pretty sure over half the people complaining in here would likely go into AFK mode too if they got in...

Just saying lol.

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Originally Posted by fxivexno

next time I log in im not login out. I paid for this years ago no chance im waiting 2hours to get in every time I wanna play. why cant they have open severs and let us pick a empty one.

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I'm pretty much there. I log in in the morning then just alt-tab during the day since I play for 30 min here and there. But I do log out at night when I go to bed.

[QUOTE=Crica;1150216]altruism does not exist - everyone does things because they get something out off it/QUOTE]

While this is true (via Ralph Waldo Emerson), I log out bc

1. Do not want a crazy electric bill

2. Its good for my computer

3. Use less bandwidth so my ISP doesnt throttle the hell out of my connection.

Feeling good has nada to do with it. Being smart does.

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Originally Posted by Gucci_Charms

Um, I'm pretty sure over half the people complaining in here would likely go into AFK mode too if they got in...

Just saying lol.

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And you would be wrong. Maybe you people should stop projecting your own selfishness and look in the mirror?