honestly, it feels like people are treating this issue like it's black-and-white, and it isn't at all. both parties, the people who log out and those who don't aren't really right or wrong. it's not wrong to stay logged in so that you can play a game you put money down for, nor is it especially 'right' to log out so another can play.
ultimately, this game isn't some huge huge charitable affair or anything, people want to play and due to SE are unable to. staying logged in so they can play is fine and acceptable since SE are allowing it to happen in the first place. likewise, people logging out might be doing a tiny small deed, but in the grand scheme of things it's not really as if it makes a colossal difference. you aren't going to fix the problem by yourselves, regardless of the boost to your ego you may get for thinking you're doing the community a big favor.
my advice: stop trying to attack other players, other people who just want to play the game and wait for SE to address the problem. be indifferent.
i'm not excusing myself for anything -- i don't stay logged in either. yet, i still don't blame those who do. the problem would remain regardless and until SE does something there's always going to be a group of people unable to play. there is no 'right' thing to do in this situation. it's great that you log out and think you're doing some good deed, but in the end it's irrelevant to the greater problem of server capacity being inadequate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anderian
To the people who are logged in overnight
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09-01-2013, 02:16 AMStormsoul
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09-01-2013, 02:18 AMMalys
This thread shows so much humanity.. It really is like a zombie apocalypse, "I tried being nice, but other people were mean and now I shoot people in the face". :D
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09-01-2013, 02:19 AMMoonblaze
I am pretty much resigned to the fact that I will not be able to play at all during my entire 3-day weekend. I feel strongly that AFK players staying logged in are a huge part of the reason why this is so. It's impossible to say how much of the problem is because of them, but they certainly aren't helping matters. And all I keep hearing are excuses.
Yes, SE should have built a better infrastructure.
Yes, SE should have implemented an AFK-kick system.
But at the end of the day, the only thing you have control of is your own behavior and actions. If you choose to stay logged in when you're not actually there, and actively deprive another player of a place on the server that you aren't even using, you are making an extremely selfish decision that is not in the spirit of playing a multi-user, community focused game. If you can't at least admit that I don't know what else to tell you. -
09-01-2013, 02:22 AMKaiKatzchenPretty much. I knew it would be a pain in the ass to get on this weekend, but still I didn't feel right keeping my character logged in and causing other people in other time zones annoyance. Yes it's my fault for logging out, but still sometimes doing the right thing isn't the easy thing. At least people who wanted to play could get on because I logged.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malys
Yes the issue will be fixed. Yes soon we will hopefully be able to get in without these issues without being in a queue and I'm sure the people staying logged in will have no qualms about what they did. But I believe in karma, and if you do bad to people it will come back on you sooner or later. So I choose to try and do the right things. -
09-01-2013, 02:23 AMAdaraaKatsumiSorry pal, I have been trying for 3 hours solid of spamming my controller and a fourth hour trying every 5 minutes and I still can't get in. AFKers are quite possibly the biggest reason why we can't have nice things.Quote:
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09-01-2013, 02:24 AMAnderianWell, that was the most insulting drivel I've yet to read on these forums. You are seriously trying to excuse your own selfishness by blaming people that are doing the right thing, logging out to let others play, of "boosting their own ego"? You must be a sociopath or there's something very wrong in you...Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormsoul
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09-01-2013, 02:28 AMAshbeardI'm not mad at anyone. At all. I've played every night. I just call it as I see it. There are server issues. Yes we all know that. There is nothing we the players can do about that. We DO have control over whether or not we choose to make the problems worse for everyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deculture
When an individual has the knowledge that there are thousands of people trying to login. And they just leave themselves login and leave so the spot they are taking cannot be used by one of those logging in, it says "there are thousands of you and I don't give a shit about any one of you". That makes them a piece of shit in my mind. Think what you want and I will do the same.
If you think that makes me a moron. That's you opinion. -
09-01-2013, 02:28 AMCaselia
I play at night so...tell it to those guys who stay logged in during the day. Since whenever I log in at night the server is never full.
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09-01-2013, 02:30 AMEZeroThey are, if you want to be literal, but that was supposed to be a metaphor-type thing. The concept is exactly the same.Quote:
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09-01-2013, 02:31 AMAshbeard
Everyone's experiences are different. If that makes me a "little scrub" I'm sorry my experience differs so greatly from yours. BTW I'm not mouthing off to anyone. Just giving my opinions. That's what the forums are for. Giving opinions of things that don't matter. Like this. Doesn't matter but imgladumadbro :P