Stop Complaining!

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Originally Posted by EusisLandale

No, I do believe I will continue to complain when there are problems that need to be complained about.

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Is it a problem that needs to be addressed, or is it just something you don't like.

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Originally Posted by Kohashi

That's absolutely fine. If enough players stop playing and there is no real growth anymore then, they will be compelled to make a meaningful change.

While everyone's voice matters and everyone is free to voice concerns and dissatisfaction, as long as those aren't measured in meaningful numbers, businesses will NEVER cater to a small majority. Not when other options are present on the market that could absorb those.

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What is a small majority?

If a company only does things if its customers leave that is normally to late.
Especially in video games ignoring such massive feedback is a surefire way to go down.

We aren‘t even talking about additional investments here just a change in writing.
If they need the players to quitt before changing that then they should never direct a video game again because they don‘t care for it in the slightest.

In all these discussions all are only seeing the immediate money but forget about PR.

There are entire departments and external agencies specializing in that for a reason.
If your game has a bad score and several videos not liking it next to social media burning then that is a big problem for the devs because Square itself will probably want answers for that from them.


We aren‘t talking about some ingame outfit here with maybe a handful of people unhappy.
We are talking about the big advertising thing of the game, the expansionstory with LOTS of people unhappy.

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Originally Posted by Vandi

Ms. Malia said it very well. Get your heads out your (oh..hi moderator!) and show some appreciation.

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Sorry, but I just have to ask: can you give me an example? Shall I send them a thank you note with every payment I make? Or maybe build a shrine of Yoshi-P's and have masses every day? I am curious to hear your opinion, if you decide to get your head out of their (oh... hi moderator!) and stop with all the kissing.

Gotta love that "Everyone I don't like is narcissist" internet fad.

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Originally Posted by Vandi

^ Amen, and then some!

Oooh the pleasure it gives me seeing so many ungrateful kids butt hurt and triggered over being told to just shut up. LOVIN IT. You guys pathetically hide behind the banner of “Waaa! It’s mah right to complain, cuz I pays mah subscription!”

Here’s the thing: It’s no longer constructive feedback. You burnt that out 5 pages ago in the general section. What’s left is just page after page after page after page after page of y’all rolling around on the ground. . .making noise. “I have a right to be heard, waaah!” You were…and you STILL can’t shut up.

Ms. Malia said it very well. Get your heads out your (oh..hi moderator!) and show some appreciation.

*equips trigger jacket and flame helmet!*

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What and absolute trash post. Hope you will someday have something to complain about and get this kind of trash/troll post as an answer.
Then again, i highly doubt you will get the irony.

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Originally Posted by Voidmage

What is a small majority?

If a company only does things if its customers leave that is normally to late.
Especially in video games ignoring such massive feedback is a surefire way to go down.

We aren‘t even talking about additional investments here just a change in writing.
If they need the players to quitt before changing that then they should never direct a video game again because they don‘t care for it in the slightest.

In all these discussions all are only seeing the immediate money but forget about PR.

There are entire departments and external agencies specializing in that for a reason.
If your game has a bad score and several videos not liking it next to social media burning then that is a big problem for the devs because Square itself will probably want answers for that from them.


We aren‘t talking about some ingame outfit here with maybe a handful of people unhappy.
We are talking about the big advertising thing of the game, the expansionstory with LOTS of people unhappy.

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Then, if there are enough people or reasons for concern they will change stuff.

Also, what does a small majority mean in numbers, do you have any data to back this one up?

You can say a lot of things about SE but not that they don't care. It's just impossible to accommodate everyone. It's okay not to like the story. I didn't like ARR either. I've quit 3 times over it. I dislike a lot of the systems they have here also, but I have chosen to focus on the positives and the stuff I do like and I do enjoy. If there is a better option for me out there, I will choose that because at the end of the day SE doesn't owe me anything, and I am not entitled to anything.

Also, review bombing means little in the long run. Businesses only understand money and profit, as they should because that's why they are called a business.

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Originally Posted by Kohashi

Also, what does a small majority mean in numbers, do you have any data to back this one up?

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What?
I am asking YOU because I don't know what you mean with that. You brought "small majority" up.

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You can say a lot of things about SE but not that they don't care. It's just impossible to accommodate everyone. It's okay not to like the story. I didn't like ARR either. I've quit 3 times over it. I dislike a lot of the systems they have here also, but I have chosen to focus on the positives and the stuff I do like and I do enjoy. If there is a better option for me out there, I will choose that because at the end of the day SE doesn't owe me anything, and I am not entitled to anything.

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I said that if they need players to quitt first before listening to feedback then they don't care.
Giving negative feedback is not entitlement by the way.

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Also, review bombing means little in the long run. Businesses only understand money and profit, as they should because that's why they are called a business.

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Oh come on now.
Now you throw review bombing in the ring?
There have been LOTS and LOTS of reviews about the game.
A score of around 6-6.5 is the end result of 0s, 10s (both unreasonable) and many other scores in between.
A score lower then the former lowest expansion is not good for a game and it's reception.
At this point and time after release it is a quite true indicator of player reception.

If you think a company doesn't care for PR then you have absolutely no clue of the market. I am sorry to say that.
You do know what a PR manager is right?

I agree. Let's stop critiquing commercial products. Let's stop critiquing art. Let's stop providing the feedback, unless that feedback is "just like that, just like that".

Figured I'd try to make this thread useful

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

https://i.gifer.com/3WY3.gif

Also, I just remembered someone asked where this was from last time I posted it, and I forgot to answer. The sad truth is... I don't know. I'd so watch whatever movie or show this came from.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

Power Rangers lol

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It's actually Kikaider

https://kikaider.fandom.com/wiki/Pink_Armadillo

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Originally Posted by Vandi

^ Amen, and then some!

Oooh the pleasure it gives me seeing so many ungrateful kids butt hurt and triggered over being told to just shut up. LOVIN IT. You guys pathetically hide behind the banner of “Waaa! It’s mah right to complain, cuz I pays mah subscription!”

Here’s the thing: It’s no longer constructive feedback. You burnt that out 5 pages ago in the general section. What’s left is just page after page after page after page after page of y’all rolling around on the ground. . .making noise. “I have a right to be heard, waaah!” You were…and you STILL can’t shut up.

Ms. Malia said it very well. Get your heads out your (oh..hi moderator!) and show some appreciation.

*equips trigger jacket and flame helmet!*

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Maybe I should kiss their ass aswell with every payment I make while I'm at it yeah? Gotta love being a brand loyalist ye? Love it when the company I'm paying fucks me over ya know?