JP interviews [pre-6.5]

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

I mean, I wouldn't be opposed, but I completely understand why they prefer to keep it the way it is. It's the hardest content in the game, and I think the devs want it to stay that way. That's fine by me, but again, I wouldn't be opposed to an unsync option.

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The sad part is that is only really true of TEA nowadays. UCoB and UwU have been power crept to hell and back—to the point we now have "DeathCob". Which is trying to see how many deaths you can have and still meet the DPS checks. Last attempt was a staggering 103 if I recall.

Don't get me wrong, the fights are still hard. They're just more last boss Savage levels. Put it this way, P8S was harder on release than UwU is now.

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Originally Posted by Noumenon

The Fall Guys collab will be limited time, periodic content and not a permanent fixture.

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i really wanna quote a line from mt. gulg rn...

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Originally Posted by Noumenon

They settled on tomes due to looking at data for how many weapons were made by players in past relic content. Yoshi acknowledges though that: "However, there are some people who say that this reinforcement method is ``sloppy'', so it's difficult... Some people may dislike doing elaborate things like the old weapon enhancement content, while others may feel that the enhancement methods like this one are not enough. I think this is probably not compatible."

They settled on tomes as these days playing multiple jobs is much more common, and they think tomes being something that naturally accumulates as you play makes it best suit your individual playstyle.

The Manderville Relics have the highest completion rate of any relic so far. The more elaborate they make the relic content/grind, the fewer people make one.

There is an inherent conflict between people that "enjoy weapon enhancement as content" and people that "want a system that makes it easy to obtain weapons". Satisfying both is very hard.

They will take feedback into account for 7.x's relic series.

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please, just stop catering to these hyper casuals.. they cant seriously explect a BIS weapon for this little effort.. why are we setting such low standards for gear... yet making savage raiders work so hard...

im more confident now than ever 7.0 will be my break off point for this game... i cant continue supporting this

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Originally Posted by Noumenon

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Your op basically echoes all of my thoughts so there is little else for me to add to this discussion, besides expressing how thoroughly disappointed I am with this round of interviews. There is just way too much disconnect at this point, with no wake up call in sight. It just feels like too little too late.

I’m gonna be honest I don’t really understand the fixation on “casuals just want an easy weapon that’s comparable to savage”

Relics don’t become bis until so late that it honestly doesn’t matter. It’s not going to kill you that everyone can gain access to a BiS weapon long after the contents release.

What’s frustrating about the relics is that it’s just boring. “Lol fetch quest go see the guy conveniently placed next to the cities main aetherite and buy this shit from him with tomestones you farmed in advance and bring it back to me”

It’s just very lazy design

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Originally Posted by Ivtrix

I’m gonna be honest I don’t really understand the fixation on “casuals just want an easy weapon that’s comparable to savage”

Relics don’t become bis until so late that it honestly doesn’t matter. It’s not going to kill you that everyone can gain access to a BiS weapon long after the contents release.

What’s frustrating about the relics is that it’s just boring. “Lol fetch quest go see the guy conveniently placed next to the cities main aetherite and buy this shit from him with tomestones you farmed in advance and bring it back to me”

It’s just very lazy design

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The entire thing to me reads like,
"Relics are made for casuals, not for hardcore grinders. Casuals are entitled to BiS gear as much as raiders who work harder for them. Raiders just get a jump start to get them earlier. Eventually we want the casuals to be able to be equal to your gear level though even for less effort."

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Originally Posted by Bonoki

The entire thing to me reads like,
"Relics are made for casuals, not for hardcore grinders. Casuals are entitled to BiS gear as much as raiders who work harder for them. Raiders just get a jump start to get them earlier. Eventually we want the casuals to be able to be equal to your gear level though even for less effort."

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I think this is a pretty accurate assessment of the intent of relic weapons.

I don’t need one since I raid, but I do appreciate that they make them look good (talekeeper is the best rdm weapon in the game and I will fight anyone who disagrees) so I usually will obtain them
For glam.

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Originally Posted by Ivtrix

I think this is a pretty accurate assessment of the intent of relic weapons.

I don’t need one since I raid, but I do appreciate that they make them look good (talekeeper is the best rdm weapon in the game and I will fight anyone who disagrees) so I usually will obtain them
For glam.

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I usually only do them for the grind and the story [little niblets of story!] as I raid also. But I loathe Manderville stuff so I've just not even touched them. I can't stands it!

Relic isn't just for raiding. It's about the effort to gain something special. A special shiny weapon!

It's more important for glamour then for the stats. Most raiders are loooong done with the raidtier, when the final relic is available.

The old relics are not 'hard' to get. You don't have to do something 'hard'. But you have to put effort into it. And so it feels rewarding in the end. The EW relics feel just meaningless. :/

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Originally Posted by Heavenchild

Relic isn't just for raiding. It's about the effort to gain something special. A special shiny weapon!

It's more important for glamour then for the stats. Most raiders are loooong done with the raidtier, when the final relic is available.

The old relics are not 'hard' to get. You don't have to do something 'hard'. But you have to put effort into it. And so it feels rewarding in the end. The EW relics feel just meaningless. :/

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I do agree with this, I haven't gotten the EW one yet because I'm still working on the other relics. I wish people would stop gatekeeping. I'm not a raider and I see the frustration they have but at the end of the day we all pay the same sub. I don't mind having to work to get a relic grind or not. It does feel sweeter when you work towards it. I also understand the need of this or any other MMO attracting the mobile game crowd too there is $$ to be made there. So where is the middle ground?

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Originally Posted by Snorky

I do agree with this, I haven't gotten the EW one yet because I'm still working on the other relics. I wish people would stop gatekeeping. I'm not a raider and I see the frustration they have but at the end of the day we all pay the same sub. I don't mind having to work to get a relic grind or not. It does feel sweeter when you work towards it. I also understand the need of this or any other MMO attracting the mobile game crowd too there is $$ to be made there. So where is the middle ground?

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A somewhat shorter grind or no grind after the first relic obtained. Devs have a really bad habit of just removing or abandoning content instead of adjusting in smaller increments. They step right over the middle ground every time.