Deep dungeon for BLU only

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Originally Posted by Eorzean_username

But for Blue Mage, the developers chose not to do it, because Mr. Yoshida (and advisors) apparently decided to use his (their) biased and distorted personal impression of what Blue Mage is, to define the boundaries of what the Job could or could not be for everyone else.
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Blue mage learn their skills from monsters, if this was a 2.0 class you could have each job quest give you 1 spell, at that point its the same as any other caster in the game

the gimmick isnt quite that they "use" monster spells, youre forgetitng the other half where they have to LEARN monster spells from battle

that, and the way 14s content is made (instanced, not the open world style of 11/eureka) would be a balancing nightmare,

so the option was, a unrestrained blu where you can have fun on the side, or a blu thats the same as a normal class that feels divorced from the two tenants of blue

they went with the former

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Originally Posted by 4clubbedace

Blue mage learn their skills from monsters, if this was a 2.0 class you could have each job quest give you 1 spell, at that point its the same as any other caster in the game

the gimmick isnt quite that they "use" monster spells, youre forgetitng the other half where they have to LEARN monster spells from battle

that, and the way 14s content is made (instanced, not the open world style of 11/eureka) would be a balancing nightmare,

so the option was, a unrestrained blu where you can have fun on the side, or a blu thats the same as a normal class that feels divorced from the two tenants of blue

they went with the former

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yeah happen to agree. i think yoshi p even said they would need to make the class normal which would lose the essence of what it is now. i mean if people want another boring dps. i say devs..give it to them and watch them whine their op strats don't have the same effect

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Originally Posted by 4clubbedace

the gimmick isnt quite that they "use" monster spells, youre forgetitng the other half where they have to LEARN monster spells from battle

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Whalaqee Totems would like a word with you.

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Originally Posted by Winterfang

Whalaqee Totems would like a word with you.

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the rest of the skill list and the blue mage carnival would love to have a word with you.

btw thats only 11/104 spells you get from the totems and even they have conditions you have to meet..like learning x amount of skills, getting so far in blue mage carnival etc

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

the rest of the skill list and the blue mage carnival would love to have a word with you

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. Saying that Blue Mage HAS to learn spells from battle when even in this game it isn't true is being deceitful.
And learning spells isn't hard either, so aside from plaza AFK'ers who complain about having to leave the the city if they want to learn spells, lts not asking a lot to put in some investment if someone wants to actually play an Iconic Final Fantasy Job.

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Originally Posted by Winterfang

. Saying that Blue Mage HAS to learn spells from battle when even in this game it isn't true is being deceitful.
And learning spells isn't hard either, so aside from plaza AFK'ers who complain about having to leave the the city if they want to learn spells, lts not asking a lot to put in some investment if someone wants to actually play an Iconic Final Fantasy Job.

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so you one of the many that want it in normal content but can't seem to realize that the way it currently is literally breaks any and all content it currently can't get into. i mean if you want devs to put it as a regular dps then get ready for alot of changes that will turn it to just another boring dps

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Originally Posted by Winterfang

. Saying that Blue Mage HAS to learn spells from battle when even in this game it isn't true is being deceitful.
And learning spells isn't hard either, so aside from plaza AFK'ers who complain about having to leave the the city if they want to learn spells, lts not asking a lot to put in some investment if someone wants to actually play an Iconic Final Fantasy Job.

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having a majority of spells learned from totems wouldnt really feel like blu

and now the issue you have is quality control, you have issues in pf already but since its a limited job what can you do, self filter

if it was a for real job? without the quality control? people in pf would be furious and more than anything youd just have people bar blus from pf parties anyways just to lesten the chance of someone really mucking it up

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

i mean if you want devs to put it as a regular dps then get ready for alot of changes that will turn it to just another boring dps

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Let's not be facetious and pretend that the only way to fight boring job design is Limited Jobs when real jobs were previously in a better spot.

Unrelated note: Why must phone posting be such a PITA

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Originally Posted by Winterfang

Let's not be facetious and pretend that the only way to fight boring job design is Limited Jobs when real jobs were previously in a better spot.

Unrelated note: Why must phone posting be such a PITA

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i mean i have to ask what does the community as a whole want because im seeing "oh herp derp give me a deep dungeon", "oh herp derp let me use it in all content as it is now". like what is it because one of those would be farmed majorly in a week then forgotten and the other would make it a normal class and lose what makes it good as it is now.

not to mention the dev time that would need to be taken on the deep dungeon would push back anything they might be working on.

1. keep it, don't change it
2. become a normal job
2.1 become a caster dps
2.2 become a job that can change to any roles (tank/healer/dps) with mimicry
3. add new challenge/content for the job like potd/hoh achievements and titles only for BLU

pick only one of them

the problem with number 2 is that, what will happen to all that spell/skill that we have collected? are they going to be removed? do we have to collect new spell/skill again?