Trends in content types and faux difficulty

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Originally Posted by Denmo

Understandably so. But what do you expect from a company trying to redo an entire game while keeping the old one alive?

If you're feeling frustrated with SE, take a step back, play something else, and come back when there's more to do.

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I'm not so much frustrated with SE then I'm frustrated with the people being "ok" with what SE is giving us. Cause if SE see's us as being ok with what they are giving us, we'll get more and more half ass content in the future. I realize all we have atm is to tide us over till 2.0 launches, but at the same time I want people to encourage SE to give us something unique to make FFXIV stand on it's own.

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Originally Posted by Nullie

I can understand that, but it isn't our fault that they're having to redo the game. That shouldn't be an excuse to justify it imo.

The thing is there can be better solutions than the rinse and repeat. Telling people to just walk away isn't the solution. We all want the game to be great and we can only help make it better by adding our input and thoughts on it. If we all walk away and come back we will still have the same "go in and spam this so you can hope to get something with luck" content over and over.

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I think SE is doing all that they can with the time frame given. At the end of the day, it's not about the current players. It's about 2.0. If everyone hates content that's currently in the game, then 2.0 won't have it. But don't expect it to be fixed in Patch 1.22b.

I'm not sure if I agree with everything, I'd probably have to reread. But I concur with the bit about luck. This game, as of now, rewards luck, not skill. It needs to be a system that rewards skill, maybe rewarding totems(with the current system). And it is very repetitive. At the same time, they can't just make runs that occur every week, or two weeks. There has to be a mix. How boring is it only doing a dungeon once a week? I'm not sure what they could do, but I know that forum post help dramatically, keep it going.

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Originally Posted by Nullie

I can understand that, but it isn't our fault that they're having to redo the game. That shouldn't be an excuse to justify it imo.

The thing is there can be better solutions than the rinse and repeat. Telling people to just walk away isn't the solution. We all want the game to be great and we can only help make it better by adding our input and thoughts on it. If we all walk away and come back we will still have the same "go in and spam this so you can hope to get something with luck" content over and over.

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yes, input and feedback is important but dont force yourself playing repeatedly what you feel is a failed system, coz u aint gonna get much fun out of it.

I agree this game needs to kill and bury the "reward for luck, not effort" horsesh*t, though I'm still on the fence about lockouts. The biggest problem I see with them is if you have an odd number of LS members and can't make a 2nd party those who aren't in the main party are pretty much SoL for stuff to do that night.

I guess in a sense a good middle ground would be if you win the fight you're "locked out" of the chest, but those that didn't get the kill will get their's at the end of the fight. Though how that would work in a raid is beyond me.

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Originally Posted by Denmo

I think SE is doing all that they can with the time frame given. At the end of the day, it's not about the current players. It's about 2.0. If everyone hates content that's currently in the game, then 2.0 won't have it. But don't expect it to be fixed in Patch 1.22b.

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You think they are doing all they can, but you don't know that they are and adding something simple as a token for every win and after 100 accumulated will get you a prize could be there. That system is there for ifrit. Not to begin with so it was added in. It's there for moogles and automatically for garuda. So you can't say that they don't have time to do something like that. Again, there could be better solutions.

I don't hate it. I do enjoy doing CC and AV myself and there is no guarantee that things will be different in 2.0. And if everyone hushed up about it nothing would ever change.

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Originally Posted by Corrderio

I agree this game needs to kill and bury the "reward for luck, not effort" horsesh*t, though I'm still on the fence about lockouts. The biggest problem I see with them is if you have an odd number of LS members and can't make a 2nd party those who aren't in the main party are pretty much SoL for stuff to do that night.

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Really the only content I'd expect to have any sort of lockout would be one involving an alliance, then I could see it being feasible tho I don't really care on that matter<,<; About lock-outs that is I could live with them or without them

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Originally Posted by Corrderio

I agree this game needs to kill and bury the "reward for luck, not effort" horsesh*t, though I'm still on the fence about lockouts. The biggest problem I see with them is if you have an odd number of LS members and can't make a 2nd party those who aren't in the main party are pretty much SoL for stuff to do that night.

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There was an idea somewhere in the thread about limiting the number of items you get during a certain period, but still let you do the dungeon/content.

Of course, best case-scenario would be content so hard that even by spamming it everyday you would only beat it a couple of times at best (or none at all!)

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Originally Posted by Kaizlu

There was an idea somewhere in the thread about limiting the number of items you get during a certain period, but still let you do the dungeon/content.

Of course, best case-scenario would be content so hard that even by spamming it everyday you would only beat it a couple of times at best (or none at all!)

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Just edited my post with something similar, though the problem is I'm not sure how that would work in DD/CC/AV since the chest mechanics are different.

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Originally Posted by Hippo

yes, input and feedback is important but dont force yourself playing repeatedly what you feel is a failed system, coz u aint gonna get much fun out of it.

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I'm not forcing myself to do anything. I don't have to play this game. S.E. is the one handing this out for us to do on here. Ifrit, Moogle, Darkhold, CC/AV, Beastcamps, and Hamlet are all based on that system. A change would be good don't you think?