Is it just me, or are Expansions getting more brutal and depressing every time?

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Originally Posted by Raven2014

I don't it matter. That would be like saying since Thailand is a very devouted Buddhism country, and because Buddhism teaches enlightenment the people of Thailand must be more enlightened than other country ... Trust me, they are no more enlighten or less sinful than any others. The story did mentioned it, and you see even Maltia even when he was the one who reminded others of the teaching, he came almost to turning while chanting it. You're giving that culture too much credit I think.





No ... unless you skip 2 MSG cutsceen ... they mentioned it front and center, it just doesn't have the super omnipotent effect you think it does.




Have you talked to any of the business owner that suffered during COVID? Once a business fail, there often no going back. And even if one can, many won't have the will to rebuild something that was built over decade from scratch. My grandfather was a very rich man, and he invested everything in a trade ship. That ship sunk and insurance was barely enough to cover liability so he didn't have to go to jail, but he lost everything. Many years later he admitted at one point he thought about renting a bus, put the whole family on it (about 15 people) and just drive it off the cliff. So yeah, I can totally relate to the feeling of the Thavnair's people.

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Sorry what? So you going to over look what don't fit your Narrative? You can just say even with all the plot hole I liked it. But you just.....
People that are devouted in Buddhism are more enlightened.they make not even 1% of the population. In 5he same time just because we fixed some bigger problems in older Citys don't mean there no small one any more. We made it so there no poor and reach? No crime? So there be people in disparity any where.

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Originally Posted by Raven2014

Just like people who can't feel anything unless seeing main character died left and right must have grew up only watching Game of Throne?

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No but for something to be sad you need emotional connection to the characters. Look at DBZ ,did you fell sad when any one was killed? No as you know they be well soon..now look at let's say made in abyss , thing there hit hard even when you know the main character won't be dead. But they get fucked up badly and nothing say they be ok. So no death is not the onlly way to make a story sad.

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

Ok, so by your logic the Role Quest make no sense because the areas that these take place, (Gridania, Doma, etc.) should all be completely free of despair but the role quests suggest otherwise.

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Except others and me had covered exactly that point about the role quest.

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Let's look at Hawaii. 89% of exports from Hawaii stem from small to medium businesses.

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I know I'm the one who brought up COVID, but that just to show recovering is not an instant process, or even possible for individual. But I doubt COVID is comparable to having a monster tower in front of your port, neither I doubt they have all the social safety net to protect them.

The point is:

- Final Day don't hit everyone at once.
- Final Day will hit the most vulnerable position first.
- Regardless how "not that bad" you think Thavniar is, relatively it's in a far worst position then the Eozea Alliance.

Thus, it simply makes sense it will be hit first.

Gotta be honest, the only moment I felt anything in the story was that talk with *redacted* on the bridge, they kept talking about how beautiful life is and the whole moment I was thinking "I wish I still felt like that".

I agree with the OP, this Expansion was, to me, a step-down in quality from SHB. I felt the dungeons were not as interesting and unlike the other expansions, I could feel the procedural formula with this expansion. Plus the duty parts of the MSQ were abysmal and felt like road blocks to slow down progression. The story was also disappointing, this the company that brought us FFVI, FFVIII, FFXI and FFX, the story felt like a real confusing EMO mess.

What the hell is happening in this thread. Why are we talking about Hawaii.

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Originally Posted by LisSquid

What the hell is happening in this thread. Why are we talking about Hawaii.

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I hear it's lovely this time of year to get away from the snow.

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

I hear it's lovely this time of year to get away from the snow.

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Stay away unless you like Rain and COVID. We are currently having the worst bouts of both we've seen in a while.

Endwalker was trying to be dark. Some times it did deliver this theme but when I look at it as whole it failed to be dark. I expected that at least some of main characters will die (I am not saying that I am dissapointed. I just expected that) and it would have a much bigger impact if it really happened.

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Originally Posted by Raven2014

I know I'm the one who brought up COVID, but that just to show recovering is not an instant process, or even possible for individual. But I doubt COVID is comparable to having a monster tower in front of your port, neither I doubt they have all the social safety net to protect them.

- Regardless how "not that bad" you think Thavniar is, relatively it's in a far worst position then the Eozea Alliance.

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How exactly is Thavnair worse off than virtually every other area?
The Tower? Got taken care of before virtually every other area of the world with the added bonus of kidnapping being stopped.
The Economy? We literally helped rebuild Ala Mhigo's entire economy from scratch with Nanamo. Are you telling me they got a solid economy up and running in that short a span of time when all Thavnair needed to do was reestablish their trade routes once again? That seems like something that would realistically take much less time than recreating an entire economy from scratch.

The truth is there wasn't a good reason for Thavnair to even be included as far as the narrative was concerned but it was shoehorned in anyways just to showcase the Final Days and nothing more. The entire zone was filler from start to finish just to pad out the expansion since nothing and I mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in that zone was needed to tell the story.