Dungeon design is just so boring and formulaic [Spoilers]

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Originally Posted by SieyaM

This actually is the real reason for the request most of the time. They don't want harder or challenging content for the sake of the challenge or to try and guide the player base to improve, they want something they can do and others cannot so they can have some kind of proof of being better. The thing is that already exists in game with Ultimate but since it is so removed from all other content they don't get to flaunt it in any way that matters.

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Bingo.

They try to dress it up as wanting something harder or with more teeth but they would not touch it if it didn't have special only-them rewards. Because there are ways they can challenge themselves now that they scoff at since it doesn't have unique rewards.

I have no problem if someone wants to suggest it. I just wish more of those suggesting it would be honest with themselves about it.

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Originally Posted by Gameovers

No we don't. The wow players don't even want those. Stop asking for other game's garbage.

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Handy how you can speak for an entire playerbase who, given Mythic+'s playrates despite being a less efficient means of gearing than competing options for most of the expansion, seem to think otherwise...

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Originally Posted by Torlala

yeah mythic plus worked so well for WoW didnt it? Lol

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Well, yes, actually, if we look at it in terms of hours played, content longevity, subscriptions retained, design efficiency, at-level difficulty options, content diversity, gearing path options, etc.

It's a minor added investment that allows for those who enjoy light-party-equivalent content to, at slightly reduced efficiency (or difficulty relative to reward) compared to full-party-equivalent play, do what they like at the precise difficulty levels they like.

Its vault rewards were overtuned, overly encouraging a "best/final push" per week rather than letting people wholly do what they want, and the keystone system was bull, but having fine tiers of difficulty to choose from with optional bonus mechanics are a good thing.