February 5th Announcement, Realistic Expectations Thread

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Originally Posted by EtherRose

I'd rather them work on a new engine for the next FF-MMO which will most likely be action combat based. I hope.

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Which would make me about as interested as I am in the newest FIFA game. I guess I'm one of those weird oldschool people that like the tab target based combat, doesn't exactly help that all of those "action combat" mmos have been absolutely terrible shovelware.

I'd rather not see FFXIV abandoned in favour of a different project. To me, it makes more sense to upgrade it bit by bit and fix some of the limitations that are currently holding it back. I'm not against a more action focused MMO and if it had stuff I enjoyed, I'd play it...but the development team are adamant that FFXIV will have staying power over the coming years. I'd like for that to be proven with more than just words.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

I'd rather not see FFXIV abandoned in favour of a different project. To me, it makes more sense to upgrade it bit by bit and fix some of the limitations that are currently holding it back. I'm not against a more action focused MMO and if it had stuff I enjoyed, I'd play it...but the development team are adamant that FFXIV will have staying power over the coming years. I'd like for that to be proven with more than just words.

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Square Enix’s ffxiv dev team keeps shoving excuses down our throats everytime we want major improvements to be made.
“It can’t be done currently”
“Server limitations”

It’s like, if you can’t improve upon your current mmo, you might as well begin another one so you don’t have these issues. FF11 still has players, just not as many as ffxiv. But let’s be realistic, we all know they won’t start a new mmo project till they’ve milked every run down aspect of this game. Which is like, the year 2040, lol. They just REALLY do not want to improve upon things that should be improved on. I know Yoshida said “feel free to have high expectations” but I don’t think his definition of high expectations are the same as ours....

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Originally Posted by Theodric

I'd rather not see FFXIV abandoned in favour of a different project. To me, it makes more sense to upgrade it bit by bit and fix some of the limitations that are currently holding it back. I'm not against a more action focused MMO and if it had stuff I enjoyed, I'd play it...but the development team are adamant that FFXIV will have staying power over the coming years. I'd like for that to be proven with more than just words.

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"upgrading it bit by bit" unfortunately has it's limits, the engine and code this game is running on is ultimately a mess and all they seem to be able to do with it is put bandaids over the cracks.

Realistic expectations?

Absolutely.

I expect I'll see the following:

Expansion Pack Announcement
New Job(s) Announcement
UI Update Announcement
Head Gear for Viera/Hrothgar Announcement
5.5 Preview Announcement
A New Dungeon(s) Announcement
A New Trial(s) Announcement
A New Raid(s) Announcement
Male Viera/Female Hrothgar Announcement (see: Expansion Pack Announcement)
Hype Train Chat*
Hype Train Forum Chat*
Myself, Jumping On That Hype Train
Lots of People Announcing the Confirmation of X, Y, and Z via In-Game Chat
Myself, Looking Forward to Seeing Lots of People Announcing the Confirmation of X, Y, and Z via In-Game Chat
Millions of Fans Gushing at the Sight of the Next Expansion
Myself, Gushing Alongside Millions of Fans, at the Sight of the Next Expansion
I Took the Day Off from Work to Watch this Announcement Showcase, but Also Because I am Getting the COVID Vaccine and it is Requested to Receive It before My Two Days Off, but For Some Reason the Nurse Said She Couldn't Do That, So It Fell to Me to Request That Day Off, and Here I Am
Butt Slider*

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*1 and *2: On Various Social Media Platforms/Boards
*3: Butt Slider, a New Exterior Housing Item that Allows You to Sit on a Slip-and-Slide and Propel Yourself Across Your Front Yard

I doubt the engine is exactly 1-1 as it was in 2013 but limitations will always persist unless they leap into a new engine which I don't expect any mmo to do anyways so I don't know why people ever expect that. Although it's a poor excuse I don't doubt the legitimacy of what they say, loads of MMOs can't develop certain systems due to limitations we never can directly see.

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Originally Posted by Kiurai

I doubt the engine is exactly 1-1 as it was in 2013 but limitations will always persist unless they leap into a new engine which I don't expect any mmo to do anyways so I don't know why people ever expect that. Although it's a poor excuse I don't doubt the legitimacy of what they say, loads of MMOs can't develop certain systems due to limitations we never can directly see.

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Nobody is expecting them to just implement new feature with the snap of a finger. Yes all engines are limited to a certain extend, this one just seems a lot more limited in what can be done and it becomes increasingly more obvious the longer the game goes on. Glamour is one of the best examples, with how many different item skins we now have in the game we're in desperate need of a system that lets us use those skins without clogging up our inventory and I have no doubt that SE would like to implement that QoL feature, the engine is apparently just not capable of handling it.

2 more days, everyone. I’m looking forward to seeing what “high expectations” means to Yoshida.

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Originally Posted by MachaYum

I’m looking forward to seeing what “high expectations” means to Yoshida.

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Glitter stickers for gpose, please look forward to it.

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Originally Posted by Yencat

Glitter stickers for gpose, please look forward to it.

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as much as i wish this wasn't the case and the ui team could spend time doing something more useful to the majority (fishing tug fix for power/precision on certain fish, magic/physical split, retainers) it probably will be.
currently they have a big project on for slo mo in gpose.