You're kidding right? Have you even tried for 200? I dont see you on the leaderboards anywhere, though not discounting the possibility of an alt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadane
You must not understand. At later levels its possible for mobs you CANNOT KILL without pomanders to almost exclusively spawn cause RNG. Then you get layout RNG. Then you have mimic RNG. THEN YOU HAVE CRIT RNG.
It is NOT a dash of luck. Sure there is work involved, but it isn't worth it. It's poorly designed and it pigeonholes you into one of the most stress inducing situations. Nerfing it would NOT be handing it to you on a silver platter. It would be transforming the poison soaked spike pitfalls with sawblades on either side and demons ready to eat you into a pitfall with sawblades, demons and spikes without poison.
POTD floor 200 solo
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05-03-2018, 05:36 AMMilanFrozen
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05-03-2018, 07:00 AMCanadane
I've gotten to floor 150 personally, if that's somewhat important to you. I'm not currently trying to go for 200 I have other tasks to go for right now.
I understand how later floors work. I don't think high stress situations are bad. Quite the contrary, it's nice to have the almost insurmountable challenge available and open to almost all players.
Regarding pomanders, yeah they're needed. Nobody is denying this. Again, not a bad design. It's a tool specific to the game modem. Use it and abuse it. Sorry if you've had some bad RNG, but I've always cleared floor 100 with almost 3x of every pomander. Don't really use them until they're required, like you said. So it minimises the chests I have to open, decreasing mimic chances.
It's a very fun game within our game. -
05-03-2018, 07:15 AMMilanFrozenYeah you got no clue then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadane
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05-03-2018, 08:39 AMpolyhedral
The real pain doesn't start until 180, or so I've heard from friends, and watched being streamed. I don't really care enough to try to solo past what I already have.
Who knows, I may try too soon if I get bored, although I really don't trust the game and/or my connection to keep me online long enough to not DC during the middle of POTD. The connection lately has sucked horribly. -
05-03-2018, 08:50 AMCanadaneSo my opinion on the challenge itself is somehow moot?Quote:
Originally Posted by MilanFrozen
I enjoy challenges. Since getting past 150 in a group later on and knowing the boss mechanics, I've been wanting to go back. When I have the time I genuinely look forward to the challenge. -
05-03-2018, 09:10 AMMilanFrozenI don't want to discourage ya at all, but yeah 180+ is where you hit the big wall. Every mob pre 180 can be killed without using a pomander so long as there isn't a floor effect or something. I'd still say go give it a shot though and see how you feel about it, but bear in mind that 180 is when it's hard. Also around 150 you will probably feel the anxiety kick in as you keep looking at the clock wondering if you'll make it in time or if you'll have the boss to 5% and 'duty failed'.Quote:
Originally Posted by polyhedral
Also I just want to kinda point out the following as far as the RNG goes and list all the RNG there is.
-Pomander RNG (Pomanders are 100% essentially to winning and it's possible later on that you may not get the ones you need. at floor 190 you NEED to have at least 1 steel and possibly two if you can't beat the boss or he will ONE SHOT YOU)
-Trap RNG (Floor 180+ if you hit a luring trap you are dead. this will waste a raising pomander or ruin your run)
-Status debuff RNG (not as big a problem as trap RNG, if you get a floor with the debuff where you can't use pomanders or sustaining potions then you can't beat the floor without clearing the debuff)
-Crit RNG (Floor 190+ some mobs can do attacks that will crit you + do an attack for 80% or so of your hp killing you instantly without a steel)
-Floor Layout RNG (Depending on floor layout, you may have an easier or harder time. this matters because the time is ticking. CONSTANTLY TICKING)
-Monster Layout RNG (Sometimes you will get floors filled with only mobs that you cannot kill without one or two witching pomanders)
-Mimic RNG (On the later floors, the amount of Mimics you encounter goes up and getting infatuation on you will make things harder. Not to mention mimics take a lot to kill)
See above. Your opinion is invalid because the evidence above showed you're wrong and your words holds no weight because you have not experienced it. (edit for clarity)Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadane
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05-03-2018, 09:16 AMAxlStream
Oh do I hope you never whine about Savage content then or job balance in general.
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05-03-2018, 09:20 AMMilanFrozenYeah heaven forbid someone disagree with game design and use examples and evidence as well as experience to show it's bad. Not to mention how boring it could be.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxlStream
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05-03-2018, 09:24 AMAxlStreamNo, I mean if you discredit someone for not being super excellent at one aspect of the game, expect it to be returned in kind.Quote:
Originally Posted by MilanFrozen
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05-03-2018, 10:44 AMArcaviusGreyashe
The thing is: nobody criticized Ultimate because it was too hard, or those were irrelevant people that didn't kill O4S and wanted to try it... But yeah. Those people are irrelevant for that content. In the same way anyone who didn't experience Potd floor 180+ Solo, or didn't "study" it is irrelevant regarding that content. There are people out here that tried for actual years to go to floor 200 solo, and that didn't succeed, not because they weren't "Super excellent", they are, but because the whole challenge is unfair.
So yeah, having an irrelevant person coming out of nowhere to say "You just need a dash of luck" despite the dozens/hundreds of hours you've worked... It probably can trigger many people, and that's legit.
So don't make that a state affair, and do as I do: leave communities alone if you're not interested in what they're doing, except in condescending ways.