Feeling Underwhelmed with 3.4

They will add Queen's hair from FF Type-0

OF COURSE I'M EXITED!!!!

Raids? Trials? What?

- Just kidding

I know is the same and same formula again, but is this formula that make me playing the game for more than 2 years. New things are awesome, and I want something new, but I'm fine with the current game formula. It's fun and entertains me a lot.

I really want to face Sophia and see the end of Alexander. (I'm holding myself a lot to now see the 3.4 trailer).

If they gonna change anything with the formula, they'll only do in 4.0.

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Originally Posted by Lewtskie

HAH, I had started playing ESO around the same time! And feeling the exact same way you are to a T.

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And when you get to the end game in that game you'll be waiting around disappointing for content because it will last you a matter of weeks and not months. This happens to every single mmo in existence

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

And here we are in Heavensward still wondering where they are.

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Raids have been different with Normal mode added - grinding Normal for gear was not a thing in 2.x.
Hunts have been different with the Hunt Bills added - there's now a real option to progress without joining in on the A/S Rank train.
Tome farming has been different in 3.0 with Roulettes and Aquapolis, you no longer have the days of spamming nothing but WP and Brayflox Hard on repeat, though some people still did grind ARF, it was a lot less necessary.
PoTD added another way to cap tomes, gain XP and get decent weapons.
Red Scrips made Crafting and Gathering different.

Diadem was a fail but not everything will have an impact.

There's very little info on it now but it's possible that Tails also changes player behavior. The changes are happening they're just not massive.

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Originally Posted by Lewtskie

HAH, I had started playing ESO around the same time! And feeling the exact same way you are to a T.

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Don't let that fool you. I joined FFXIV between 2.3 and 2.4
Naturally I still had a lot of content to clear between 2.55 and 3.0
Content update in ESO usually comes with DLC being put into the cash shop.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

There's very little info on it now but it's possible that Tails also changes player behavior. The changes are happening they're just not massive.

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Player behavior isn't the change we're looking for though. It's different content that is desired. Hunts have not changed since their inception, and tome farming isn't new content no matter how many things you add them to.

Aquapolis is indeed new, but it's a single instance.

PotD is also new. But this is a foundation that people want to see improved. Will they improve it? I doubt they will with 51-100. Maybe they will with 101-200. Until it's improved, it's just mowing through trash mobs.

Diadem was abandoned for too long, and that is my biggest disappointment with it.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

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theres only so much stuff one can invent though , as u grow older , ull have more and more experience with everything , even if SE adds something new , im sure theres gona be someone on the forums crying how its similar to something else , and that the old stuff from some other game was much better (but its not really better , it was just interesting coz it was a new expirience for a while ) :P

in the end mmo is just a grind over and over again :P and no new formula is gona change that.

edit : what im trying to say is , if ur bored from gear-grind , no matter what the devs throw at u :P, one is always gona be disapointed , the only thing that comes in my mind is if the devs give out loot for free without any effort at all :P , but then ull just want more and more and more :P (its the same with all other genres like fps , racing games and so on)

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

Player behavior isn't the change we're looking for though.

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Well it should be because otherwise you should just play a different game.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

Hunts have not changed since their inception

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You are completely not paying attention then. B Ranks were changed massively and daily bills in 2.0 were all but useless. I never roamed around 2.x areas looking for generic mobs like i did with 3.0 Bills.

Every new system is linked to what kind of rewards it can have. The game is hindered greatly by it's itemization. Materia slots was the way they attempted to change it in 3.x but it's not enough.

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Originally Posted by Khemorex

what im trying to say is , if ur bored from gear-grind , no matter what the devs throw at u :P, one is always gona be disapointed , the only thing that comes in my mind is if the devs give out loot for free without any effort at all :P , but then ull just want more and more and more :P (its the same with all other genres like fps , racing games and so on)

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Who said anything about gear? They could completely get rid of this game's gear system and it wouldn't be a negative to me. I don't care about gear. I care about playing, not numbers.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

B Ranks were changed massively and daily bills in 2.0 were all but useless. I never roamed around 2.x areas looking for generic mobs like i did with 3.0 Bills.

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B ranks are still the same old punching bags they were, and daily bills are still the exact same thing. All that has changed is the rewards, not the content.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

Who said anything about gear? They could completely get rid of this game's gear system and it wouldn't be a negative to me. I don't care about gear. I care about playing, not numbers.

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99% of the playerbase. Different content is useless if you can't incentivize enough people to participate.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

99% of the playerbase. Different content is useless if you can't incentivize enough people to participate.

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And rewards are useless if there's nothing for the players to use them for.

The next patch is either going to:

a.) Be easier content that the current patch or

b.) Make the gear you grinded for obsolete

This has been the same formula since the game has come out. What good are the rewards?