So Thursday's maintenance is supposed to bring crafting/gardening adjustments...

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Originally Posted by Felis

try it with reselling
as an example: Buy crafting gear from the NPC at the moogle village for 9k gil, sell it on the MB for 30k gil

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Other People, with conscience mind you, would tell you that's scam.

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Originally Posted by Nadirah

No, I think what I'm reading is "ease up on the requirements so it's more accessible to more people thus driving up the supply and crashing the prices".

Getting rid of overmelds is a good start. No one should ever have to cough up millions for gear. The only reason it costs that much is because you have to buy dozens of materia because of failed melds.

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This. But don't bother we're the only ones who actually not only think of themself here.

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Originally Posted by Waeksyn

I will start selling stuff on the MB's for ultra low prices when EVERY elitist raider starts offering free carries through any raid of my choosing until my DoW has top notch equipment.

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Should be the other Way around my Friend. We should start charging you carrying you through the Stuff :) Good Idea! every Crafter cough up a million for every other player who needs bear with you in the raid or gtfo :D

I wonder how long you would last XD

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Originally Posted by Hypie

Should be the other Way around my Friend. We should start charging you carrying you through the Stuff :) Good Idea! every Crafter cough up a million for every other player who needs bear with you in the raid or gtfo :D

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This is entirely the point. People do charge for raid carries. I don't use that service and am fine doing the raids myself. I earn my rewards. You, on the other hand, seem to expect a free ride from crafters. What a loser.

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Originally Posted by Arkista

Adjust the drop rate for the skin problem solved. Think they did that to Fleece way back when.



I'm going give you a tip, Stop leveling your crafts and go and level either MNR or BTN ( I hate Fishing). You'll have all the Gil you need to fund all your crafting classes. There are so many low level items that are selling for 300gil+ each.

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Everything I can gather atm is sold on vendors.

And Exal has undercutters that like to drop prices on common mats by 90% ...

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You can make all your own starter gear 60 gear once you have everything at 60. The best gear will be released in a couple days will take red scrips to buy which are capped on a weekly lockout.

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If it can't be melded and doesn't get you to caps, it won't be BiS.

I don't think it should be difficult to get into crafting but you have to put in a considerable amount of effort. You'll also usually have to start small first as you can't expect to be able to buy expensive gear immediately. Any gear you use will be your own crafted equipment or gear purchased from npc vendors and upgrades should be done as infrequently as possible.

When I first started with the game, I made my first million over a week and a half by farming shards for about an hour a day. I then used the gil I saved to level my crafting classes and started selling low to mid level HQ gear (prices usually at 10-20k only), which net me 10 million in profits over the next month and a half, completely financing all of my classes. I did not gather much so I had to purchase my materials, but with careful budgeting and item pricing, you can earn enough to keep leveling and upgrading your gear. I don't believe that 3.0 should be any different since you can do the same thing: farm shards, etc to earn your "working capital" and then invest it in materials to craft gear and products to sell.

as a glamaholic, I am glad that glamour prism did not get a new tier

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Originally Posted by Nadirah

If it can't be melded and doesn't get you to caps, it won't be BiS.

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I really doubt the red script crafting AF2 they been showing off won't be the best.

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Originally Posted by Nadirah

Everything I can gather atm is sold on vendors.

And Exal has undercutters that like to drop prices on common mats by 90% ....

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I'm also on Excalibur, sure there are under cutters, but a lot of high end crafts are calling for low level items. Not going to name them cause I'm making decent gil. Level your MNR, should take you like 4 days to hit 60.



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I'm assuming most of the people with complaints didn't craft in FFXI. Cause if you did you would know that crafting in FFXIV is super easy.

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Originally Posted by Gilthas

This is simply too much.

Then there's the absurd and poor planned requirements for quests and gear:

- The level 53 Goldsmith quest requires a fish that can only be obtained by level 55 Fishers, and Hardsilver that can only be mined by level 56 Miners.
- Level 54 accessories also require Hardsilver.

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Here's the thing...

If the game was designed around level 1-30 items requiring 1:1 ratios, 30-50 requiring 2:1 ratios and 50-60 requiring 3:1 ratios, a lot of things would make sense linearly, and so would the prices.

But that isn't what happens. What happens is that the RMT's drive up prices, so people who want to do crafting, simply can't, and as such people have to hunt their own materials if they ever want to profit on anything. Otherwise the price of materials is too risky to produce an item that might not sell because it's not a BiS gear item.

Like I ran into this just trying to get gear to do the level 50 recipes. You can't make any of the items unless you are already wearing all level 50 gear, and you can't gather any level 50 materials unless you're wearing level 50 gear, and you can't buy any of the materials because they cost more more money than you can legitimately make in a month.

Anything that can be bought from a NPC becomes trash value.

The game -enabled- crafters to not have to use the market by being able to buy NQ materials from NPC's, thus torpedoing the value of all materials dropped from dungeons, thus people don't even need on them anymore.

At launch, all the crafters wanted the 'coke' item which was super-expensive. All the GC-purchasable items became trash value.

So high material prices hurts crafters, but low material prices hurt gatherers, so people don't even bother to go find the materials.

The average level 1-30 item on the market is sold for 1 gil or below NPC price, Anything that sells below the "NPC" price is better off being sold to an NPC just to trash-vendor it. But there's a lot of GC-purchasable items, and high-level roulette items that are selling at trash prices.

Part of the changes in 3.0 was to not allow players to be "masters of all" so that players would be forced to buy precursor craft materials on the market (eg stuff you make that isn't a finished item.) Thus allowing the market to function beyond being a dumping ground for RMT.

"Moommmm I'm to lazy to craft and the other boys and girls are doing it and want compensation ITS NOT FAIRRRR."

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

The average level 1-30 item on the market is sold for 1 gil or below NPC price, Anything that sells below the "NPC" price is better off being sold to an NPC just to trash-vendor it. But there's a lot of GC-purchasable items, and high-level roulette items that are selling at trash prices.

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Try it with mythril ore or flax
Or farm pudding flesh and diremite web in Toto-Rak

Just an example of some low level mats reused in lv51+ recipes, that have now a high demand again. Forget your NQ mats for level 50/ilevel 70 gear, their demand is low since the level cap increase and since you can get them as HQ from treasure maps.