Endgame toxicity

The problem is most player are in this rushing hype train...
They want to complete everything asap like we're facing the big armageddon next month.
All I can say is form your own trusted party for endgame content.

This is a problem borne of the design of end game encounters. These challenges are not supposed to be something that a random group are supposed to tackle: the people who primarily thrive off random grouping haven't grown socially enough to do so. In fact, a majority of people probably don't even want to or have too little time to devote to move towards the needed level of social play.

The only thing that gets me is the expansion hasn't even been (officially) live for two full weeks yet! I can't say that I'm surprised, but they beat my projections.

I kinda hate these groups too and even if I can do the fight without making mistakes I wouldnt join PFs like that.

I have a linkshell with really skilled players and they are friendly and will gladly teach me new fights. I learn after a wipe or two anywya.

But this is my way to avoid the mean PFs. See if you can find LS for end game content or make one yourself and invite skilled plyers!

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Originally Posted by Dement

The JP have a different view of how to play the game but I can't imagine it's all sunshine and rainbows on a JP server. If it is then they've come a long long way in 10 years. I played FFXI where all the servers were integrated and the JP were incredibly exclusionary. It was pretty typical that the moment they had the slightest idea that you weren't JP, they'd drop you instantly if they could replace you.

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The grass is always greener, as they say.

The "JP onry" attitude is still prevalent.

Can't believe people are still bitching about this crap. Most of those elitist PFs are full of people who don't have a flippin clue what they're doing. They are usually learning parties in disguise.

If it bothers someone that much, be proactive and figure out a way to lead a group. Stop being a sheep.

I haven't read all the responses so I'm just stating my opinion. Please leave your emotions at the door if you get offended.
First jp is isolationist culture in real life. However that is not everyone in jp stop holding everyone to your few encounters.
Second I'm guilty of this "toxic " attitude. I very often display rules For my farm before going in. I always use two strike = blacklist. I do this because I'm very busy and on call sometimes. I do not have the luxury to spend time teaching or helping people. Especially when if you teach they say things like "it's just a game". Yes it's a game. So that's your excuse for being subpar and not trying your best? That disgusts me. Then the other one "I play how I want ". That's fine but your way sucks. Its math. I needs x dps to clear. You are weakest dps. Its not personal.
I've notice people make it personal though. They get mad if you tell them what they do wrong. Being nice and sweet to everyone does not get things done in efficient time. Not only that but being nice just makes people assume you are for giving to slacking. Its a waste of time in content that requires good effort. I'm not saying be mean. But be blunt and direct.
I always hear people complaining they can't get this content done or that. Or their fc no help. Leave useless fc? Stop playing with people who think being lazy is fun? That's just how I feel. Sorry for anyone I upset.

I wouldn't call that "toxic". I am the type of player who would be excluded from those parties, but a user created group has a right to accept and exclude whoever they choose. I may create a learning party for ex primals and I will do so to filter out players such as those who create parties like the ones you posted. It goes both ways.

Party Finder doesn't exist so people can make groups for you, if you don't fit their criteria(no matter how harsh, stupid or unfair it is) then make your own group.

On a related note, calling everything toxic is really starting to become tiresome, reminds me of SJWs.

Being bitten by snake venom, toxic.
Not getting into other peoples groups, inconvenient.

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Originally Posted by Chihaya

Again this fking disgrace of pulling the RL card on a game forums.
It is perhaps they have a job and family to take care of rather than wasting hours teaching some random on the internet that they may not see again. It may sound mean/rude - but it is how it is.

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So they have time to spend hours farming. But not spend 10 to 15 minutes teaching a new player about an EX fight. That's some lovely logic.