Titan issues that need addressing.

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Originally Posted by SevenHeavens

see that plume under your feet?...dodge it

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

....You see things under your feet. Move. Victory.

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PPL please, go to youtube, watch, a lot of movies showing that thay dodge the plume very easy and a lot of time for their reaction. Just like what above 2 posts have said, simply they have no lag.

For ppl really have lag, when they see the plume on them while they are not running, they have already got hit at the server side. ^^;

I didn't read this thread in its entirety, but Titan HM/EX is one of my most favorite encounters of this game.

When I did my first few encounters with Titan, I thought for sure either I was a terrible player or my latency was an issue. (I'm on Hyperion and I'm in Japan, so I have higher latency by default than other players in NA region...)
However, months later since those first fights, I've got no problem with the mechanics of how the fight works and how to avoid stuff. My real complaint is that it's probably too mechanical. I kind of wish it was more random, but I understand the difficulty of some and the order of things help predict what's coming next.

I'm a PC player with an aged i7 machine paired with a GTX690 GPU (+SSD for load times).

Admittedly, I will make a mistake and get knocked off or get hit by a plume when I'm not tanking. It happens...

So what if it the telegraph animation renders after the cast bar starts? Just get over the fact that this is the way the fight is designed. Never mind the fact that Titan does a completely predictable rotation. In one way, the fight is made even easier by that fact. If you can't dodge with the telegraphing or watching the cast bar, then you can do it by memorizing what's coming next and moving ahead of time or at least being prepared to move. I don't see why a big deal is being made about a supposedly "broken" fight.

I'm pretty sure the root of the issue is that some players just have slow reflexes or poor memory.

I don't understand any of these responses. Nowhere in the OP was there a single complaint about this fight being too difficult. Several people have come back with inane responses about how it's really easy to work around the problem outlined in the OP.

Either it's some sort of server issue, or more probably (in my opinion) simply bad design. It seems like it was just a choice by the devs to begin the animations for a particular action's effect after the cast bar ends. The result is that, for example, Weight of the land casting time ends and then Titan's animation and the explosions trigger, but the explosions don't happen until Titan throws his hands forward. It's a relatively short animation, but the effect happens at least a quarter second later than would be expected. This happens with most things though. BLMs are always casting their next spell during the animation for the previous spell, for instance.

I believe the reasoning for this is that they don't want the animation to play in the event of a last second stun, sleep, death, out of area or line of sight, etc. To me though, it seems like it would make more sense in most circumstances to begin the animation early such that the visual effect of the damaging event (in this case weight of the land's explosion) occurs simultaneously with the cast bar filling to 100%.

Please understand that this isn't to 'nerf' the Titan fight(s) or any other, but simply to sync up the visual data that players are primarily using with the numerical account of what's going on. I think it would be a worthwhile endeavor for all parts of the game simply because it would make a lot more sense.

Considering "Dodge shit marked out on the ground" is part of every boss' mechanics, any time this stuff doesn't sync up it's an issue. Whatever it is, it's gotta be on the list of fixes needed and I hope it is.

Want to know whats funny? Player characters are completely opposite. Most of our moves do not apply to their target until the animation is over. Lmao. Benediction, for example.

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Originally Posted by Verdan

Considering "Dodge shit marked out on the ground" is part of every boss' mechanics, any time this stuff doesn't sync up it's an issue. Whatever it is, it's gotta be on the list of fixes needed and I hope it is.

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Considering you are not lagging, if you move out of the aoe BEFORE THE CAST FINISHES, not before the animation finishes you will be fine.
nothing wrong with Titan.

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Originally Posted by Elim

Want to know whats funny? Player characters are completely opposite. Most of our moves do not apply to their target until the animation is over. Lmao. Benediction, for example.

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Gotta love them wasted benedictions.

Basically, people are saying that the game needs to fix their unfortunate networking circumstances for them. I'm sorry, but that's not the way this works.

Also, you should be watching the castbar to see what's happening and where you need to be - this is a necessity to clearing more difficult raid content later in the game and Titan HM was originally a very good way to force people to, well, play better.

As for the animations vs. damage thing, that is a conscious design decision that I'm very happy with. Other MMOs look weird when damage hits before an animation is even halfway done, but FFXIV gets it right by not applying damage and heals until our visual representation of the game world tells us that a target has been affected by whatever was done.

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Also, you should be watching the castbar to see what's happening and where you need to be

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Castbar tells you the former. It gives you absolutely no indication of the latter.

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Originally Posted by Elim

Want to know whats funny? Player characters are completely opposite. Most of our moves do not apply to their target until the animation is over. Lmao. Benediction, for example.

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Yeah but it's going the opposite direction so that makes some sense. We see it on our screen instantly - but it has to travel all the way to the server before it's recognized.