[request] increase Alexandrite fate drop rate

Relic has pretty much always been a bit of a grind and is a sort of status symbol for being a job specific weapon with a special name and design (as in that is its main reward). Every step has been quite a grind in some manner and so far each step has been nerfed over time, some more than others but the concept of the relic is still the same. A mostly "casual" weapon that needs TIME. It's only casual because it does not require hardcore content like say The Binding Coil of Bahamut / Second Binding Coil of Bahamut / Final Binding Coil of Bahamut or extreme primals.

The fact that relic is casual has not changed, nor has its difficulty to obtain, if anything it's only being made easier and easier for each patch that make changes to it. What people are upset about is being late to the grind and just see countless of steps that they deem not worth it, but it's somehow still worth enough to bitch and moan about because it's easy to complain when you are casual. If you don't want to invest time, no one is forcing you to get the relic. It should not be easy to get, it should not be nerfed further and it most definitely should not be cheaper either. Making an item explicit itemized the way you want is huge and should never be cheap, especially in a game where finding good itemized items in the first place is really hard (seriously if you think every dreadwyrm piece is BiS you are completely and utterly retarded and hopeless).

You can casually average 3 Alexandrite a day by doing a daily map, soldiery maps (because SE is practically giving the stuff away) and hunts. Seems like people STILL aren't satisfied.

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Originally Posted by Melriss

clearing T10 separates you from all the welfare hunters getting logs to gear their bards into skill speed augmented ironworks or something equally horrifying.

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As much as I disagree with the OP (and with the poster you're replying to), this is a horrible attitude to have about people that currently can't or don't want to enter FCoB. Seriously, do we need to get this nasty about it?

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Originally Posted by Krr

Hunting gear separates you from all the Coil xenophobes who can't handle seeing large groups of other human beings at once so they hole up in instanced content wiping 4-5 times a day 'learning' T12 or something equally horrifying.

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I'm really not sure if you're being facetious in your response by mimicking the last poster or if you're genuinely being just as obnoxious as they are. There's just so much generalization on both sides of this, seriously. Many raiders are happy to go back and help people clear previous content or even current content. As far as stat distribution, some of the Ironworks gear is actually BiS; SE seems to like encouraging a mix of the tome gear and the raid gear.

Man, I really don't see why this discussion took such an unpleasant turn in the last few posts. :|

Didnt read the whole 10 pages, but drop rate already increased once before, and now its a lot better.

Give an inch....

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

As much as I disagree with the OP (and with the poster you're replying to), this is a horrible attitude to have about people that currently...

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I apologies, I put it in the worst way. When I say "welfare hunters" I mean the people who collect all their gear from hunts and use the mentality of having ilvl 125 or whatever as a measurement of their skill. I have issues with "HEH, I GOT ILVL 130 FROM HUNTS... I'M BETTER THAN EVERYONE NOW!" which hunting seems to breed. People who hunt for fun or because they can't/won't do FCOB and know that it isn't a measurement of skill are absolutely fine.

Another issue I have is the horrid entitlement people seem to have, I'm not against having content nerfed due to a lack of playerbase getting involved in it or it being outdated; but people like the OP and the screeching, entitled little goblin that posted below my previous post are what we should be worried about. These are the type of people that would tear whole groups/communities of people apart because they can't get what they want (such as nerfing coils, giving everyone the best gear with little effort, making relic max reward with little investment). It's funny because I know I'm better than those people - I'd rather claw my way to something or work in a group than have these paranoid little fits on a forum over it. And if people don't want to do relic, coil, crafting, leveling other classes etc. because they choose not to, then no one should look down on them. It's their choice. It's a whole different story when a crying manchild demands that you rip apart the accomplishments of others so everyone can be a "winner" is just saddening.

On topic, I think Alex nerf is fine, it was horrible to get beforehand due to soldiery/daily and the % of FATE rewards. It should not be 75 days of roulette, but it shouldn't be 5 hours of FATEs.

Haven't and won't read through all 10 pages. My own experience (FATE farmed about 35 of my alex) showed about a 20% drop rate. It's RNG however so there is a bit of R to the NG. I'd go 4 hours and see only 1 drop but then I'd get 7 back to back.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

I'm really not sure if you're being facetious in your response by mimicking the last poster or if you're genuinely being just as obnoxious as they are.

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Facetious absurdism.

I genuinely despite the phrase 'welfare gear' as a derogative, though. Especially for relics, which require a tremendous amount of work and gil to put together.

I seen this thread today and was like " Hmmm drop rate increased to 10%", Well in less than 3hrs I had 5 Alex.

Got one after 14 fates, another after 19, one on the 32nd fate and I got two in a row for 44th and 45th fate. Then I decided to hit up a higher level area and I didn't get anything after 30 fates, my luck ran out for the day.

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Originally Posted by Mature

Still have 3 More updates I believe

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Be happy it's soon.
It took forever for Atma to get anywhere.

I have a 40 hour a week job and a 22 month old boy to take care of.

Early 30s.

I am on Nexus (Solely because I got lazy and Inquisition came out so retarded my time with Novus by 3 months due to it).

Suck it up. Put the time in it. You can get 2-3 Alexandrites a day without even trying.

boo hoo, I work x number of days, I can't do it.

Grow. Up. Really. This quest line isn't even that hard. It's tedious and RNG based. But the Alex part is the least RNG based out of all of em as you can automatically get some if you put time and effort into it.

And no, this isn't a "I got mine, don't want to share." It's a "I got mine, and I worked for it, so suck it up buttercup and work for yours."