[dev1008] Petition to have Jumping implement

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Originally Posted by Ceons

Make it a 5 sec cooldown and everytime you spam the cool down increases by 2 seconds until you have jumped 10 times then you can't jump anymore for a whole minute. any other valid arguments besides bunny hopping?

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Great idea here. Put in a system to prevent people from abusing it.

Ok now people with the spamming argument what do you have to say? :)

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

I'm not judging, just using common sense. No bubble bursted don't worry! :)

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Unfortunately your common sense is hardly common. As this thread and others clearly shows. Your mistaking your own biased opinions as common sense, which is quite hilarious to see.

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There is no need to repeat those fabled valid arguments against jumping yet you repeated what, 3 times now that there is arguments somewhere instead of telling me what these arguments are and end this debate. Wow...

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it's much faster, and more fun, to see you run in circles and try to bite your tail, while failing to aknowledge the fact that people have posted plenty arguments, and that they're no less valid than yours (actually more, mind you).

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I'm just following your logic, you seem to think we shouldn't have jump because you and some other people say so.

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Nope. We shouldn't have jump because many people evidently dislike it, and what the developers are actually doing right now (removing collision detection on cliffs) makes jumping completely obsolete and useless with this game's level design.

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You talk about selective reading, yet Yoshi-P wrote that it's on low priority for now, which makes sense as the core gameplay mechanics are broken and need fixing asap. And you read what? "Jumping features is abolished" lol....

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No. I read that not only jumping has been downgraded in priority, but it's implementation is also clearly stated as something that's not a given. It's getting further away, and very possibly it won't happen at all. Looks like things look quite bleak for the jumping fans, and quite obviously, looking at your heated posts in which you attack people on a personal level and mistake your own opinion as absolute fact, this is causing you to rage your heart out. :D

Oh, just for the record, bolding your posts doesn't make your arguments more solid. Might wat to write like everyone else instead of flying in the face of the most basic notions of netiquette.

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Originally Posted by Lerris

Let's go for realistic jumping. You'll make it maybe 2-3 feet off the ground if you're good at it. Unarmored. With an empty backpack. In chainmail, forget it.

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You are an elf.

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Originally Posted by Ceons

Make it a 5 sec cooldown and everytime you spam the cool down increases by 2 seconds until you have jumped 10 times then you can't jump anymore for a whole minute. any other valid arguments besides bunny hopping?

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Not much of an argument, but a question.

More like two questions.

1. For the 5th time, would collision-based jumping be good enough? (I cant wait to see this go ignored again.)

2. How would free-jumping be any different from collision-based jumping and/or our current way of being able to scale terrian?

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

Yet 90% of mmorpgs have jumping.... besides.. hmmm... FFXI and FFXIV?

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They have jumping, but you know what else they lack?

Exploration through Jumping.

Ability to dodge enemy attacks.

So while "90%" have jumping that's all it is...jumping. No exotic use for it.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

They have jumping, but you know what else they lack?

Exploration through Jumping.

Ability to dodge enemy attacks.

So while "90%" have jumping that's all it is...jumping. No exotic use for it.

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I actually pray we don't have to jump around to evade. Actually, if added, we shouldn't be able to jump while in combat.
Exploration on the other hand sounds fun.

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

Great idea here. Put in a system to prevent people from abusing it.

Ok now people with the spamming argument what do you have to say? :)

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If its a fixed system where you can only do it in location sensitive events basically sure. I personally would prefer its restricted to Chocobo and the more you jump the faster the chocobos stamina is drained and once you drain its stamina it flys away from you. Then implement areas you can only get too with Chocobos but can leave on foot.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

They have jumping, but you know what else they lack?

Exploration through Jumping.

Ability to dodge enemy attacks.

So while "90%" have jumping that's all it is...jumping. No exotic use for it.

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Well yeah you can't have dodging by jumping if a game's combat won't let you.. especially if they are going back to auto-attack.
Elexia, you are so funny

Why the hell does it matter that jump has never been in an FF game before? This isn't a console RPG, it's an MMO, most MMOs have a jump feature whether its needed or not. Also, I've played all the main games in the series, it would be nice to see something new added after 15 years of playing the games.

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

Well yeah you can't have dodging by jumping if a game's combat won't let you.. especially if they are going back to auto-attack.
Elexia, you are so funny

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Yeah.

It's like saying "90% of MMOs have a lava zone."


Well yeah.