Why Monks need a Buff + Petition!

The way I see it monks need a few changes:

Shoulder Tackle should be a 20s Cooldown
GL should be 18-21 second duration
Twin Snakes should probably be 15 second duration

Biggest things, imo, are Bootshine and True Strike. As higher risk skills being the back target ones, they should probably be more worth using.

Bootshine should be changed from a critical when dealt from behind to 200 potency when dealt from behind. As your crit increases, it becomes less and less effective to use bootshine from behind, relative to Dragon Kick. This way bootshine still scales with crit, and would actually be slightly more potent.

True Strike, instead of having a 5% extra chance to crit, Should give a 5% chance to crit buff when dealt from behind. Or alternatively, make it a debuff that increases the chance the monster suffers a crit by 3-5% (Monks could use some raid utility).

They could use a threat drop. They're already riding the threat meters really hard, and they're the only dps class without some threat management aspect available.

And finally, Monks (and dragoons) could use something to make them not so succeptible to AoE. Not sure what, but even putting 10% aoe damage reduction on Fists of Fire or something like that would make a big difference.

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Originally Posted by savant07

Bards are low dps. Good lord, people thinking otherwise are just ignorant or plain stupid to think otherwise. Find good players of each DPS class and do some actual testing rather than actually claiming they are good dps just because the forum QQ is strong on a specific class.

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You. I like you.

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Originally Posted by savant07

Bards are low dps. Good lord, people thinking otherwise are just ignorant or plain stupid to think otherwise.

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You must be trolling.

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Originally Posted by Risbyn

As opposed to people convinced that Bard is TOP DPS?

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I'd disagree just as much with the notion that we're top dps as with the notion that we're low dps.

Bards are high effective dps. They won't outshine the other classes on a target dummy, but in a real fight their mobility and utility are more then enough to compensate for slightly lower base damage.

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Originally Posted by Mitski

You must be trolling.

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No I'm not. People like you are the trolls that think "Oh bards are top DPS cause early parsers say so and well must be true now". People like you are the ones that spread so much misinformation to people. Just because people are claiming it to be doesn't mean it's always true. Go test it yourself before claiming it as truth. Quit being a sheep. Quit being a noob.

Actually, monks dish out one of the highest dps in game. The issue is that anything that cuts them off attacking for to long means grease lightning drops and dps takes a good blow.

Monks need a Quality of Life change if anything so their damage doesn't get destroyed in fights where you aren't able to keep up a steady rotation. Without that buff dropping, they easily would be one of the top dps in game.

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Originally Posted by savant07

No I'm not. People like you are the trolls that think "Oh bards are top DPS cause early parsers say so and well must be true now". People like you are the ones that spread so much misinformation to people. Just because people are claiming it to be doesn't mean it's always true. Go test it yourself before claiming it as truth. Quit being a sheep. Quit being a noob.

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Do you even read what other people post before you respond? I never said bards were top dps. I said they have high effective dps, which is true.

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Originally Posted by Mitski

Do you even read what other people post before you respond? I never said bards were top dps. I said they have high effective dps, which is true.

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Effective DPS is dependent on each encounter. The only encounter where your "effective" dps of other classes might go down is Titan. Any fight in Coil, every class can pretty much output almost max if not max DPS. There aren't a lot of anti melee mechanics there and not a lot of Titan-esque abilities. So no, they are not HIGH effective DPS, they are low outside of Titan.

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Originally Posted by Purutzil

Actually, monks dish out one of the highest dps in game. The issue is that anything that cuts them off attacking for to long means grease lightning drops and dps takes a good blow.

Monks need a Quality of Life change if anything so their damage doesn't get destroyed in fights where you aren't able to keep up a steady rotation. Without that buff dropping, they easily would be one of the top dps in game.

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You would need a DPS nerf if that were the case. You are balanced around having the difficulty of having to keep greased lightning up and having a difficult rotation. It's like asking if you can have your DoTs last 100 seconds cause that'd make your rotations easier.