I've had multiple instances when each team is in overtime both at 50% where the win or loss makes no sense. I've seen the enemy team come to our side and we stop them at the checkpoint but we still have to push even if they beat our progress. I've been on the team pushing into their checkpoint and we pass their progress but lose because someone stepped off. So we need the devs to come out and explain why this happens? is based on map or what because it's frustrating to lose when both teams are at 50% each.
I'm hoping they address a lot of these changes come 6.2 but if they don't then rip who knows when they will
Overtime needs a clear explination.
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08-11-2022, 09:53 AMSubarashiOvertime needs a clear explination.
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08-11-2022, 04:27 PMGeryth
There's an info kiosk right there on the wolves den pier that gives said explanation:
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08-11-2022, 07:56 PMGarten
Asking for clarification.. in the last paragraph It says that you have "to beat their progress score".. and that's It? Or do you have also to do the 3 second thing?
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08-11-2022, 08:00 PMGordonGeeko
What I don't fully understand is why sometimes the game ends instantly when you step outside the crystal and some other times it takes 3 seconds.
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08-11-2022, 08:43 PMEsmoire
Even people who are broadcasting the mode, not playing, able to see everything and not think about their rotations, get caught off-guard by OT. I think the UI and how it's presented could be a little better. When you study it and focus on it, it makes clear sense, but in practise even people with hundreds of games in the new mode take time fully parse the situation. Should be more quickly readable and maybe needs some extra help from the UI and sound department.
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08-11-2022, 09:14 PMAzuri
The losing team wins the second they push progress higher than the winning team. Checkpoint progress doesn't count, you have to fully break past if the other team ever touched your checkpoint. The winning team wins by having the other team off the crystal for 3 seconds. Those are the only rules.
What OP might be experiencing is UI being bad. The progress bar at the top is a completely static element. Your team isn't always on the left like in most games. -
08-13-2022, 05:29 PMSubarashi
I've read the conditions but maybe I'm not being clear as to what is happening.
"So the example says should the opposing team have a greater progress score upon commencement of overtime you must beat the score." Right? Ok so there's been a game where both teams are at 50% the enemy has +20% progress upon overtime and we have maybe 5%. My team wipes them and pushes it to 50% +60% progress but we step off or die and we lose. Why is that? when the conditions say we must beat their score and we do shouldn't they now have to try and beat our score? Also shouldn't the game end when a team pushes past 50%?
I've had games where I win with 50% +8% progress and the enemy team has 50%+80% progress because the enemy team stepped off the point. I've lost games with 50% and 95% progress because we stepped off the point. Then there's times when all teams are off the point and the Crystal resets with 50% and mixed progress. I know the victory conditions but there's seems to be a bug or an underlying condition that's not explained??
Lastly I understand the progress bar can be confusing to read but I completely understand where to look not to mention I've watched replays where I see us passing them in score but still lose\win. So If it is just me only experiencing this then I guess I need some new gamer glasses because it sure seems buggy or some weird condition that's not being met. -
08-13-2022, 06:11 PMAzuri
I'll reiterate - checkpoint progress is irrelevant. There are only two states of the crystal that matter: 50% progress - the crystal is on the checkpoint - and 51% progress - the checkpoint has been broken and the crystal moved past it.
If the winning team reached 50% but didn't manage to break checkpoint before overtime started the only way for the losing team to win is to completely break the other checkpoint and get to that 51%. And it is a loss the moment you all step off the crystal for 3 seconds before you do it. Regardless of how much progress you might have made to breaking the checkpoint. -
08-14-2022, 10:08 AMSubarashiOhhhhhh ok I get it now, sorry my thick head couldn't comprehend it till how you just explained it. Thank you and thank you everyone else for putting up with my smooth brain sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azuri